72 Sport option 734
 

I don't see the 734 LeMans Sport option listed on the 72 order form. Page 1 ends at 732 (rear bumper guards) and it isn't on page 2 of the form. How did one order it when it's not on the form? Or was there another form it was on?

Jeff

I don’t see it either.
I also looked thru the ‘72 Accessorizer and don’t see anything.

http://www.gt-37.org/gallery/index.php?/category/193

I’ll keep looking around.
Bill

My 72 has the 734 Sport option. The number appears in Eric White's book.

What is the description for 734?

Here's a picture of the description in Eric White's book.

We know the 734 Sport option was available, it's how you ordered it since it wasn't listed on the 72 Lemans order form, nor the Accessorizer catalog. What's interesting on that description in Whites book is that you could order it on a 2 dr hardtop with either 701 (HD radiator), 721 (decor group), 731 (front bumper guards), 741 or 761 (neither of which show up on the order form or accessorizer either, so not sure what those options are). I don't get why having one of those first three options would have anything to do with the Sport option which was bucket seats plus the door panels with the Gto pattern, lower door panel carpet and fender or quarter panel emblems depending on if you had the chrome or endura front bumper. I may be missing something else. They don't have anything to do with each other. Odd.

Disregard my rambling on the above post! I'm stupid. I found this from an old thread:

"Here's what the 1972 Accessorizer (dated 1/13/72) says:
654 (sales code) Y90 (UPC) Trim, Sport Option- Front bucket Seats, Matching Door Trim Panels with Assist Straps. (Trims 701, 721, 731 or 761) LeMans Hdto Cpe......$164
(This listing leaves out the 741 Green trim option. Was the green interior trim dropped at mid-year?)"

SOOO, the 701,721,731,741 and 761 are the codes for the different colors available in bucket seat trim!!!

But still, that sales code is 654 and not 734 and it doesn't mention the Lemans Sport emblems you got as well, so that's still a mystery

pggto, I don't have access to an Eric White book, does sales code 654 show up in it?

Yes it does. Custom Bucket Seat Trim (D37 only w/334)

Okay, so this is starting to make a little more sense. D37 only w/334 means the hardtop with the GTO option. We know the GTO option came standard with the bench seat. So if you wanted the GTO option AND bucket seats, you had to order the 654 option as well. If you had a LeMans hardtop and wanted bucket seats, you had to order the 734 Sports option. Same price too. Though with the Sport, they threw in the fender emblems on the chrome nose cars. T41 cars got no emblems at all.

They did make a lesser amount of D27 post GTO's and a ton of D27 LeMans, but were you able to get buckets in those? If so, wonder what option you chose for those?

Still haven't figured out where the 734 option was in the order or accessorizer forms.

When you say the T41 cars got no emblems at all are you also referring to the rocker molding emblems? Mine has the GT option, would that make a difference? My GT has the rocker engine emblem. Didn't the 72 455 HO cars with the T41 front end has a 455 emblem on the front fender?

Sorry, I should have made that more clear. If you ordered the 734 LeMans Sport option on a non T41 nose car, you got a LEMANS script and Sport script below it on the fender. Because of the air extractors with the T41 fenders, there was no place to put those emblems.

Heres a 72 455 HO Lemans Sport. I think this car belongs to "The Boss" here on PY.

Like this

Yes, there were small 455 emblems, but not the Lemans Sport like the last picture I just added

Did Chris have a build sheet on that car?
(or PHS)


Wonder what it shows as option?


:confused:

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=676587

Check out post #20. Which option were you looking for on it? If you are talking about the Sport or Bucket seat option, since all verts were LeMans Sport, they got buckets as standard equipment. That's what I have as well, just not at 455HO! I'm soooo jealous

Yeh I found his on my hard drive about same time.

:)

What I thought would be there is like in your link, with the PHS for the more option pic.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...7&d=1316186433


Notice it has the WW5 option as 704
Thought the Sport Option if it was 734 would be shown on it?

Here is what I have for the 734 option:
VE5 - 734 - Protective Rubber Bumper Strips (71-73)
(VE5 is UPC, like the WW5 above)

Since this blue car has the endura bumper there would be no need for the bumper strips. (for the chrome bumper)

So maybe they did change the option sometime during the year?
(I show Sport Option as W70 UPC)

:confused:

Wouldn't exactly say Pontiac made a ton of '72 D27 LeMans, that said, ALL '72 2 door Post LeMans (D27's) came with a bench seat & the standard door panels. Bucket seats were not avail in the D27 body style. The rather spartan appearing '72 standard LeMans door panels are near identical to '71 T-37 doorpanels. The only difference is the '72 versions had a diecast LeMans or GTO emblem installed up high centered on each door panel.

When a '72 LeMans Hardtop or Coupe was ordered with the GTO option, the standard trim level door panels had a diecast GTO emblem. When a '72 LeMans Hardtop was ordered with the GTO option and the Sport interior, the upper scale door panels pullstraps, the '71-72 style GTO door panel emblems were not used.

Over the years there have been owners that installed the swirled style GTO emblems on their '72 "Sport" style door panels. Many years ago, had a local that swiped one of the very nice condition original GTO door panel emblems from an original door panel from my '71 Judge project. That door panel was setting on a work table in my garage. That emblem ended up (with another one that he had come up years before) on the "Sport" door panels in his beater '72 T41 LeMans. Needless to say, I was not very happy about the stolen emblem, & it took over a year working big swappers to find a nice used pair of '71 GTO doorpanels to remove the pristine original swirled style GTO emblems. Little incidents like that are the big reason I don't have an open door policy here for locals throwing together who knows what, to come over & look at parts.

Well, mystery solved on the sport emblem. Hardtop non T-41 got it on the fender like that pictured car. Part number for it was 487742 (#19 on illustration)The quarter panel version is 71 only part number 8705590 (#10 on illustration) I can't really see a difference in them, maybe a curvature to the 72 fender version? Deck lid Sport was 71 only as well. Seems like pontiac wanted the buyer to just add the GTO sticker back there on their own since they weren't selling convertible GTO's in 72 and made it easier for the customer to do it without having that Lemans Sport call out back there.

This PHS you have attached is a D37 Hardtop LeMans with the GTO option, so it wouldn't have the LeMans sport option. You couldn't have both. Notice it does have the 654 Custom Trim option. That is the option for bucket seats when you also spec'd the Gto option 334.

The WW5 option did not mandate having buckets, but I imagine most of them also ordered buckets with it... the 654 option.

Thanks for the info Roger. You're right, there were only 6855 D27 Post LeMans with only 134 of those having the GTO option. Not a ton for sure, my bad.

Having never had a D27 post car, so confirm you're saying a D27 post and a D37 hardtop, when not ordered with buckets, used the same door panel? Only the emblem changed.

Regarding my original question in the first post... do you have any insight on how you ordered the 734 LeMans sport option when it wasn't on the order form or accessorizer catalog?
Jeff

OK, here goes. Kinda conjecture on my part but I can find no other way one could have ordered the "Sport" option . . .

The order book lists all of the available interior trim codes, and of course the bucket seat trim codes differ from the same color interior with a front bench seat.

Therefore I must assume that if one ordered the bucket seat interior trim code that the car received the entire "Sport" package.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it, LOL!

Of interest, Eric White's book shows the 734 option, along with the UPC "W70". A scan of the appropriate page is attached.

I remember the Pontiac info said you cant get the sport option with the gt option. I wondered why this was, but I have one and both are listed on the phs.

I’d like to see that PHS.

Well I've seen plenty of GTs with bench guts, and several with buckets. There was no constraint on ordering buckets (which included the 724 option) on a WU2 GT car.

ill have to dig it out or take a pic next time im by the car (I have a copy on the dash). actually a few guys on here have it. bvz or boss or Lloyd may have it.

this one is not my car, but I had it on my computer. it is a sport/gt conv.

Lloyd, sounds like the most plausible explanation so far! Another thing that backs your theory is that no where on the 72 Order form is the 654 Custom Trim option, only in the accessory catalog. The 734 Sport option wasn't on either form or catalog. I guess I'm wondering if I'm sitting in front of my salesperson in 1972 and say "I want black bucket seats on my D37 LeMans ", he circles 761 for black buckets, what triggers that option code 734 LeMans Sport/W70 be added? And additionally, if I sat down and ordered a D37 LeMans and wanted the 334 Gto option and then said "I want black bucket seats" he would also circle 761 and apparently that would automatically trigger the 654 "Custom trim" (same price as the 734 sport option). I'm just curious who/how those different options got added to the order going to the factory? Guess we may never know.

Just another note that most of you guys know already, ALL '72 LeMans 'verts were LeMans Sports.

I'm curious as to where it says you couldn't get both? Not on the order form.

A build sheet or broadcast sheet for a bucket seat '72 LeMans would tell the tale. I'll see if I can scrounge one up . . .

OK, I just checked out a real nice clear build sheet I have for a '72 WW5 GTO, assembled at the Lakewood (Georgia) plant..

It shows Dark Saddle A51 buckets but no mention of the W70 or 724 "Sport" option whatsoever.

its in the 72 factory sales book

Okay I just had to add my '72 Lemans Sport GT build sheet to all this!!! Not sure it help's at all?

Lyn.

Here's my 72 with the GT and Sport Option.

But since it was also ordered with the Gto option, I bet it has the 654 Custom Trim on the invoice, right?

Are you able to scan a copy of that page? Curious to see what it says. Also, does that sales book mention how they would order the 734 Sport option when it wasn't on the dealer order form?

Thanks Lyn! I assume the PHS invoice lists it on there as well like pggto's?

Perfect, now if we could just figure out how they wrote the order for it!

Maybe it says something on the shipping record. It's pretty hard to read, I'll have to see if I can scan it. I haven't looked for the build sheet yet.

I've never seen one of those shipping records before. The original owner of my 72 kept everything including the window sticker, but he didn't have that.

Have the dealer zone and code for that dealer?
(Anthony Motors)


:)

I wonder if it would be better to look for the UPC instead of the Sales code number?

W70 would apply to the GT option.
Where the 734 may mean something different across the different models.
(Like Firebird, Bonneville, GP etc.)

I show 734 in 1972 as Protective Rubber Bumper Strips, but not sure for which model. 734 is also the GT option for the D37.

:confused:

Scan from Accessorizer


http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1596052687


:)

Just took a peek at the binder for what I call the Dealer Order Album, and the imprint actually sez "Dealer Sales Manual".

I'll be posting a fresh hi-rez scan of the entire '72 LeMans sections as soon as I can finish scanning it in. As you will see, the LeMans Sport has it's own short section!

Tried to upload the 1972 LeMans section from the Dealer Sales Manual , but it's 27 pages at 600DPI and WAY too large of a file to upload.

Anyone who would like a copy just e-mail me at lbcoulson@comcast.net and I'll reply with the pdf file.

Sorry!

Email sent


:)

I have it scanned.
Will upload it to my “Factory Literature” page at some point.

http://www.gt-37.org/gallery/index.p...8&mobile=false