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Kokamo 04-01-2012 04:43 PM

My dads 69 GOAT......
 
Hey guys, I'm kinda new to the PY forums, but not new to cars. I figured I'd post up a little blog of what I'm doing....let me explain.

Here in the past year I built up an 85 S10 drag truck...700ish HP, glide, backhalf, etc. Ran low 10's, high 9's. Got fed up with the costs and all the BS of going to my local track dud to how far away it is. (over an hour and a half one way) Sold the truck and thought that I'd do something special for my old man.

Back in 69 my dad bought a very near new 69 GTO from a local dealer. He got a little help from his dad (my grandfather) by co-sighing for him. He got the car, paid it off, had fun with it, had the motor out doing mods and other BS we all do. Transmission was out at least once every 2 months, etc, etc. Well, in 78 (the year before I was born) he was at work late and driving back home in the pouring rain....it was dark, late, around 2am, raining like hell going about 40, then out of nowhere a Chevy van was stopped in the middle of the road with no lights on....nothing he could do to stop. So the car was totaled and it was sold for scrap.

Ever since I have been old enough to know about cars, he always told me about the "Goat" he used to have. From what he (and my mom) told me, it was a 69 GTO, 400/400, Midnight Green with a white vinyl top, parchment interior and non-hideaways. Here in the past 10 years or so, he told me he wanted to get another GTO someday, but the prices were so high that he'd prolly never own a decent one ever again.

So after seeing , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS3SvdWcAks it gave me the idea and motivation to do something extra special for my old man. So I came up with the idea of finding a car that would be worth restoring or fixing up....restore it to the specs from what he and my mom told me about it and give this car to him for his birthday as a complete gift from me...title and all.

So with the little bit of change I got out of my little drag truck, I'm on a quest to make this "want" my old man has into a reality. Now, this won't be a show car build or a points winning build, but it will be something similar to resto mod.....except for the mod part. Not a frame off or anything as I can't hardly afford what I'm doing now. I want to build the car as close to back to factory as I can, but then again, I don't want to go so far out on it that he has nothing to work on himself....I know he likes fixing and tinkering. That's just one thing I want him to be able to do on his own. I just want this car to be able to go to a local cruise-in and to turn some heads.....not a show car, but somewhere between one and a nice driver.

So, I recently picked up a 2 owner 69 "GOAT" for a pretty decent price. Not factory matching numbers, but it is in fairly decent shape for the most part. I bought this car from a craigslist deal and bought it over the phone and had it shipped to me from 1000 miles away....basically sight unseen aside from a few pics and details from the owner. The car has a 15 year old resto on it and it's starting to show it's age. I know it will need plenty of work, and I'm prepared for the most part. So once I tear into it, I'll find out what it really needs vs what I think it needs......

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The Boss 04-01-2012 05:38 PM

Decent starting point - welcome to the board.

Touching story about your Dad & your goals, I look forward to following it.

Chris

indymanjoe 04-01-2012 06:19 PM

thats a cool story,i may have a uncut dash for the radio hack job someone did...i'll look and send it if i do.Fine looking car BTW.i like white goats!pm your address.

The Boss 04-01-2012 07:25 PM

BTW - you passed the first test of posting pictures - you get a gold star! ;)

68lemansman 04-01-2012 09:04 PM

A great story and a beautiful car to start! I bet the look on his face will be priceless! Btw welcome to the forum!

tekheavy 04-01-2012 09:20 PM

Looks to have a LeMans deck lid.

AngryBird 04-01-2012 09:45 PM

Nice!!! I wish mine was in that good of shape to start. Cool thing to do for your Dad.

nytrainer 04-01-2012 09:57 PM

Evan, you mean Tempest right?! Hey, I could use that trunk emblem lol.
Kokomo, great story and good luck with your project!!

Greg Reid 04-01-2012 11:40 PM

That's a great story alright. I know if I were in his shoes, I'd be thrilled with that car AND my son....and I'd want the car just like it is, right now! Looks like a driver to me.

Kokamo 04-02-2012 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The Boss (Post 4595291)
Decent starting point - welcome to the board.

Touching story about your Dad & your goals, I look forward to following it.

Chris

Thanks Chris. My dads birthday is April 21st. That gives me almost 13 months for this build. It's more about the money than it is time. I don't have much else to do other than my full time job really. Money is something I haven't really figured out on this project yet. I figure one thing at a time I suppose.


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Originally Posted by The Boss (Post 4595367)
BTW - you passed the first test of posting pictures - you get a gold star! ;)

My first gold star!!! Lolz. I'm a member on several boards and I moderate a few, so this kinda stuff comes natural :cool:

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Originally Posted by indymanjoe (Post 4595326)
thats a cool story,i may have a uncut dash for the radio hack job someone did...i'll look and send it if i do.Fine looking car BTW.i like white goats!pm your address.

PM sent!!! Thanks Joe!!!!

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Originally Posted by 68lemansman (Post 4595434)
A great story and a beautiful car to start! I bet the look on his face will be priceless! Btw welcome to the forum!

Man I can't even imagine what his reaction will be. I have an idea I will discuss with the forum before I go on to present it to him.....that time will come soon enough.

Thanks for the welcome!!!

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Originally Posted by tekheavy (Post 4595447)
Looks to have a LeMans deck lid.

Tempest! That is in fact a tempest lid....and a prefectly rust free and repair free lid at that. All I gotta do is weld up the holes and then it suddenly becomes a GTO lid. :D

Hey, that green goat you have in your sig....what color is that? Looks to be vedoro.

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Originally Posted by nytrainer (Post 4595491)
Evan, you mean Tempest right?! Hey, I could use that trunk emblem lol.
Kokomo, great story and good luck with your project!!

Man you can have that emblem, but sadly it is broken in 3 places, so you prolly wouldn't want it :rolleyes:

Thank you sir!

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Originally Posted by Greg Reid (Post 4595569)
That's a great story alright. I know if I were in his shoes, I'd be thrilled with that car AND my son....and I'd want the car just like it is, right now! Looks like a driver to me.

Thank you Greg. Man you don't know how bad I wanted to drive it to his house and say "here ya go man", but I know this car needs some work and I didn't want to give him a pile of chit. First off this car is from the rustbelt. Born in Baltimore, bought in Iowa, then sold to a guy in Colorado. Now it's down in the dry south.....I'm still skeptical about the rust tho. Floors look decent from underneath with only one small patch I can see. 1/4's have been repaired with 60% skins, but look like a real hack job and I know there is plenty of filler in them. I will most likely go with new 1/4's and do it right.

Also, this car has been tuned for 6000 feet of air....not 500 where it's at now. It runs pig rich so the carb needs some tuning.

Lots of things going to happen to this old goat in a short amount of time (if I can figure out how to fund it)

Wish me luck guys! I may very well need it.

~Joe

Verdoro 68 04-02-2012 02:16 PM

Looking forward to seeing this progress. I've always wanted to do the same sort of project for my dad.

GTO JOHN 04-02-2012 02:45 PM

Good post. It's nice to see a newbie able to post quality pics and info right off the bat.

I think that is a great car and with the family history involved, looks like a keeper.

Welcome to PY!!

muscle_collector 04-02-2012 05:54 PM

welcome aboard. i might have missed it, but what was the color combo of your dads car? options it came with? are you going to paint this one to match his? how does this one compare option wise with his?

Greg Reid 04-02-2012 06:46 PM

Here's what he posted earlier-
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From what he (and my mom) told me, it was a 69 GTO, 400/400, Midnight Green with a white vinyl top, parchment interior and non-hideaways.

Kokamo 04-03-2012 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GTO JOHN (Post 4595985)
Good post. It's nice to see a newbie able to post quality pics and info right off the bat.

I think that is a great car and with the family history involved, looks like a keeper.

Welcome to PY!!

Thanks John. The car is in decent shape. I bought it knowing it needs some body repair. It looks ok from a distance, but up close and in person is a different story. You can see ghost lines in the 1/4's from previous 60% skin repair, cracks in the paint due to heavy use of filler in some areas. I bought this car knowing most of this, but mainly because it was a running driving car with all parts. Not much I need to look for.

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Originally Posted by muscle_collector (Post 4596115)
welcome aboard. i might have missed it, but what was the color combo of your dads car? options it came with? are you going to paint this one to match his? how does this one compare option wise with his?

Yes sir, Greg is on the ball. OK, as far as comparison,

HIS CAR: 69 hardtop Goat
~400/400
~Code 57 Midnight Green metallic/white vinyl top
~Non-hideaways
~Parchment interior
~AM/FM radio
~Non-A/C car
~Non-RA car

MY CAR (His car soon) 69 hardtop Goat
~400/400
~Code 50 Cameo Ivory/black vinyl top
~Hideaways
~Black interior
~Not sure what radio it had (PHS says "Radio P/B")
~Non-A/C car
~Non-RA car

So basically it looks like hideaways and the color are the only two differences between the cars.

This car will undergo a transformation to be as close to his old car as I can budget wise. The interior will be the last thing I do since a parchment interior conversion will be pretty expensive. I am still on the fence about ditching the hideaways and going non-hideaways....not only for originality (to his old car), but for simplicity and aid in the repair time. ANYONE WANT TO TRADE SETUPS???

I know some of you are screaming at your computer telling me not to change the original color of this car.....keep screaming, it's not gonna change my mind. :biggerGri

Also as a something to add to the mix of things, me and my father work together....at an auto parts store of all places. My family has owned and operated a parts house since the 60's....my uncle owns the store (currently 5 stores connected to 40 others) and my old man manages 2 of them. If you want to look them up, search "A-Line Auto Parts". It's going to be hell keeping this from him....he still has absolutely no clue. One good thing about having a parts store is the fact that my uncle (owner) has a bunch of body and paint supplies in one of his stores. He is also on board with me on this project and he committed to donating the materials I will need to make body and paint happen on this car. So that right there alone is prolly a 2K (or better) head start. We carry Valspar if anyone wanted to know.....I have it on my 69 Camaro I built HERE.

Also, here is that PHS paper to the goat.....

2002Z4CSS 04-03-2012 07:53 AM

Nice looking GTO.:)

gtojon 04-03-2012 08:05 AM

Russ Harvey
 
Had to smile as I looked at your PHS. My first car was a '68 GTO hardtop originally purchased from Russ Harvey in Iowa Falls. Your car will be great family heirloom! Have fun with it!

Chipper7 04-03-2012 09:44 PM

Very Cool what you are doing. Welcome to the forum if you have any questions or need advice everyone in here will be more then willing to help out in anyway. Good Luck and have fun.

68gtoMN 04-03-2012 10:40 PM

P/B is a standard AM

Kokamo 04-05-2012 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gtojon (Post 4596533)
Had to smile as I looked at your PHS. My first car was a '68 GTO hardtop originally purchased from Russ Harvey in Iowa Falls. Your car will be great family heirloom! Have fun with it!

Thanks!!

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Originally Posted by Chipper7 (Post 4597145)
Very Cool what you are doing. Welcome to the forum if you have any questions or need advice everyone in here will be more then willing to help out in anyway. Good Luck and have fun.

Thanks! And that's what I'm here for. I'm an F-body guy myself, but I'll learn the A bodies for sure by the time I'm done with this build.

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Originally Posted by 68gtoMN (Post 4597185)
P/B is a standard AM

Exactly what I thought. Thank you sir.

Well, I got her in the ole dirty garage and started going over what needs to be done. I figure I will start from the front and move back. First thing was to get the front bumper off.......

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Ok, car starting to come apart. First thing I noticed was circle cracks in the hood as if a bondo repair was conducted over a hood pin modification.....sure enough, it was what I thought.....

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Looks like I have some work ahead of me. :-ohwell:

69Customs 04-06-2012 11:08 AM

Do I see Mayfield Maze under the white?

Greg Reid 04-06-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kokamo (Post 4598967)
Looks like I have some work ahead of me. :-ohwell:

Just wait'll you pull that vinyl top off.

Kokamo 04-06-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 69Customs (Post 4599282)
Do I see Mayfield Maze under the white?

Don't you mean Mayfair Maze? Haha! Very good chance. Not sure of the originality of the hood tho. Looks to be in good shape aside from the hood pins, and looking from the location of the pins, this hood was never on this car when it did have the pins in it, so again, this hood was prolly never on this car to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Greg Reid (Post 4599291)
Just wait'll you pull that vinyl top off.

I know....I thought about that already, but I do have a date with a close friend of mine's shop that does walnut blasting. Told me I can do what I need...no charge at all. Should be a piece of cake going that route.

~Joe

Greg Reid 04-06-2012 08:47 PM

Well, I hope it's better than mine was....

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All better now though...

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Kokamo 04-06-2012 10:22 PM

Damn! That makes me worried now! Thanks alot!

Now I have a sick feeling in my gut......oh well....I suppose I'll have to deal with it and make it good.

Greg Reid 04-07-2012 09:58 AM

Well, if your's was that bad, you'd probably be able to feel it. When I bought my car, someone had already 'fixed' it....With expanding foam, fiberglass and bondo.
Right at the last minute, I decided to sand the primer off of the entire car and that's when I found what was underneath...If your's is that bad, you'd probably be better off with another roof rather than patching like I did. Couldn't take any longer and probably easier.
Sorry to hijack...got a little carried away with the pics.

Kokamo 04-07-2012 10:55 AM

No problem Greg. I like pics...I will call them "examples" of the "could be" ;)

Kokamo 05-28-2012 11:46 PM

(Greg, I got the top stripped, see update below)

Ok guys, it's been a while since I posted, but that does not mean I haven't been working on it. I've come to terms with myself on the go-ahead of replacing both quarters (full 1/4's). When I took the vinyl top trim off, I removed the pot metal trim piece and found a large crack in the paint, I followed it and actually popped out a piece of 1/8th" thick filler that had some galvanized sheet metal underneath. So I started chipping away and found the passenger qharter to have been fixed at least 3 or 4 times (see pics)....it's pretty bad when there is filler in places that's over a 1/2" thick.

So, I've actually pulled the car all the way apart...front clip, interior, glass, doors,....everything except the car off the frame and motor/trans out. Once I got it apart, I took it to get a little media blast treatment. I did the floors, the hood, all the spot welds around both quarter panels since they both have to be changed, all around inside the trunk floor, since I will be putting a full trunk floor in, the rockers and the tail panel. I found that it needs the following....

~Both full quarters,
~Full trunk pan (and some light repair on the inner wheel tubs)
~Right outer rocker
~Both front floor pan patches
~Rear floor pan section (under seat)
~Front lower left fender patch
~and a few small things to patch/fix here and there....should not be a big deal

Not too bad really.....especially since this car had been in the rustbelt all it's life, but the one that scared me more than anything is the rust in the upper cowl at the bottom of the windshield. It was better than some I've seen, but I knew there wasn't a panel available.

So with that said, I finally sold some stuff around the house and came up with the funds to make this project possible. This week I will be making a 5K+ order from PY and that will include nearly everything to get this thing more than 90% done and in really good condition.....that is, if I don't depend on anyone else doing the work.

Here are some pics....

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The top didn't look all that bad. It had some pitting, but it wasn't bad. I blasted it with walnut and that took out all the rust, but sadly I didn't get any pics since I had it in a sealer almost as soon as I got back. I knew it was going to rain and be very humid the next day, so I didn't want that surface rust to haunt me later.

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Kokamo 05-29-2012 12:03 AM

So, on my 3 day weekend, I went out and started tackling the painstaking lengthy, time consuming task of repairing the upper dash. I spent approx 2 days on it working at it here and there between house duties. I got the upper cowl all finished off, but I'm still working on getting the actual dash repaired.

Some pics ....

After removing the upper dash, this is what I started out with....

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Took about 3 hours (just on the drivers side) of cutting, fitting, grinding and welding 18 gauge sheet metal, but it turned out pretty good I think....

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Now, the pass side was a different story. It was alot worse. There were places that were completely rotted away, so most of that had to be all rebuilt....

Started with this....

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And after fixing all that junk on the lower cowl.....

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I had the upper cowl to contend with. Was pretty tricky, but I managed....

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So, this is what I have to fix next......

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Got this much done, and I was tired......

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To be continued...........................

Greg Reid 05-29-2012 04:51 PM

Wow....that is the thickest bondo I've ever seen on that left quarter. Looks like they just tried to 'carve' a GTO.
You've got your work cut out for you but it looks like it's in good hands. Nice work so far.

Kokamo 06-11-2012 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Reid (Post 4643402)
Wow....that is the thickest bondo I've ever seen on that left quarter. Looks like they just tried to 'carve' a GTO.
You've got your work cut out for you but it looks like it's in good hands. Nice work so far.

No kidding Greg. It just amazes me what people will do to make a quick buck....or even just do it quick to sell it. I prolly knocked off 10 pounds of filler on this car already.

Ok, so the upper cowl/dash is done! I figure I have around 8 to 10 hours in it. Was a lengthy job, but I think it turned out well.....

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69Customs 06-11-2012 09:04 AM

Looking Good. Noticed you removed vin tag. Any worry about right rivets to put back? I know when back in place a small plastic trim covers the rivets, but do you worry that anyone will question it?

Kokamo 06-11-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 69Customs (Post 4653399)
Looking Good. Noticed you removed vin tag. Any worry about right rivets to put back? I know when back in place a small plastic trim covers the rivets, but do you worry that anyone will question it?

THANKS!

I figured someone would be all over that. Yes, I did take it off, yes I took it off for restoration, yes I own this car with a title in my hand and in my name, yes I have the correct rivets, and no I don't think anyone will have any reason to question the accountability of the VIN tag as it matches the frame and the body stamp. No worries anyway.....I will never sell this car. :D

68droptop 06-22-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kokamo (Post 4653528)
No worries anyway.....I will never sell this car. :D

That's all you have to worry about! I'm almost in the same boat as you, but my Dad gave me my GTO. I'll never sell it either. It will be passed on to my son some day. He can do what he wants with it....that's up to him.

Great story and great work so far.

Kokamo 07-16-2012 01:53 AM

Thanks 68 DT.

Ok guys, time for a little update. I finally got in all my parts from PY. Took a little longer than expected, but it's here and I have a ton of stuff to do. As of now, I have about 90% of everything to get this car back together.

First things first.... gotta tackle the drivers side 1/4 panel. What a mess that was. Right away, I realized that the previous work that had been done was an 80% 1/4 skin. This skin, when installed requires the removal of the last 12" or so of the rocker panel for correct fit. The actual panel goes all the way to the bottom of the rocker panel. This is something I did not realize or catch before I ordered parts. So that being said, and I didn't have a drivers side rocker and I was going to replace the pass side anyway (I had the parts) I managed to find a section of rocker on the pass side that was not rotted, cut it out and fabbed it in on the drivers side. Seems to work fine for me. I also had to wait a day for a pair of outer fender wells to come in....I forgot to order them. After the outer fender install, I attempted to fit the full 1/4 panel. After about a dozen on & off's for fitting, the Dii 1/4 seems to fit pretty good. Not nearly as bad as I was thinking. The worst place was in the upper rear window....was not even close to matching (I didn't think to take a pic), so after about an hour of fiddling with it, I decided to remove that portion from the original 1/4 I removed and fab it in....and it was a great success! I even took the time to weld in metal over the roof/1/4 seam so I don't have to worry about using the awful expensive fiber filler. Now it needs just a small skim coat and she be done!

So as of now, I have about 10 to 12 hours in the 1/4 panel install....and all window trim fits nicely. I hope the other side goes as good.

Some pics......

Missing rocker portion....
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Removed from pass side....
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Fabbed in on drivers side.....(not cut for length until 1/4 installed)
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New Dii 1/4....
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Lead seam....
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After a quick torching.....
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Old, porly/mis installed pile of crapppp removed........
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After a little fitting here and there....
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She starts lookin' good......
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Greg Reid 07-16-2012 08:30 AM

That looks really good.

Kokamo 07-22-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Reid (Post 4683343)
That looks really good.

Thanks Greg. I had to put a halt on this project because a customer wanted me to do a couple things to his 68 Camaro.....it was hard for me to turn down $2k for about 10-12 days of work. This little bit of cash will push me over the wall to be able to get this done.

~Joe

Kokamo 08-21-2012 12:27 AM

Ok guys, another update is due. I finally managed to get that damn 68 Camaro out of my hair. took nearly twice as long as I thought would. Anyway, I finally got the pass side 1/4 yanked off and the new one all welded up. Also replaced the outer rocker panel, outer wheel well, and deck filler panel. Was a hell of a time fitting this 1/4. It seemed to fit physically better than the drivers side, but the biggest problem was the upper portion where the 1/4 and roof come together. The Dii 1/4 fits well in most places, but this area is a place that they really need to work on....it fit almost the same way on both sides. This time I took pics. There would be so much work to do to make it fit, so to save some time, I cut off the piece I needed from the original 1/4 and fabbed it in. Still had a ton of time and labor in it, but it is what it is. Alot of time was also put towards the trunk lid fit. Made absolutely sure the trunk lid and 1/4's line up evenly and flat....I hope this things looks good with the trim on it.

So the next thing on the list is to get the body off the frame and commence phase 2 which is to get the trunk pan replaced and do a little work on the floor to inner rockers.

Pix.......

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...O/IMG_1088.jpg

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You can see the piss-poor job someone did replacing the deck panel at one point. Prolly the same dude that put 2 gallons of filler in the drivers 1/4 panel.....

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...O/IMG_1099.jpg

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To be continued.....

scott0 08-21-2012 01:25 AM

Awesome work! Your dad will love it! Sure you will still want to give it up once it's done? Lol

Verdoro 68 08-21-2012 01:49 AM

Nice work, it's going to be a nice car when you get done with it. That previous work on the rear filler panel was something else.

Kokamo 08-21-2012 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by scott0 (Post 4712284)
Awesome work! Your dad will love it! Sure you will still want to give it up once it's done? Lol

Lolz, yeah, you know, my aunt (my dads sister) asked me, "do you think he is gonna cry?.....cause I've never seen him cry". I told her I was not sure, but I'm sure I will cry...she had a puzzled look on her face and said "why?" I said partially because it will be because my old man will have his old car back, and mainly because I just gave away a $30K+ car. :D

Ozzmann 08-21-2012 08:41 PM

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mainly because I just gave away a $30K+ car.
LOL, Excellent write up, really enjoy watching this thread, your a top body man Kokamo.

Kokamo 08-31-2012 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozzmann (Post 4712962)
LOL, Excellent write up, really enjoy watching this thread, your a top body man Kokamo.

Thanks Ozz!

OK, so I managed to get the body off the chassis....just took me and my wife with the use of an engine hoist and an engine sling. Took a cutting torch and cut the trunk floor pan out. Once that was done I realized how much work needed to be done. So with a little enthusiasm, the work began. Pix......

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...6000440375.jpg

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With that done, I used the 7 piece floor pan kit from PY...from all the reading I had done, the pan fit quite well.....

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...O/IMG_1155.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...6412746132.jpg

Now I have a few more things to take care of on the front floor pan, make a few general repairs on one of the floor braces, then I can clean up the frame and get the two back together.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...O/IMG_1157.jpg

nh68gto 08-31-2012 11:45 AM

Great build. The trunk has to be the biggest pain in the butt.

Keep her going.

Kokamo 09-03-2012 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nh68gto (Post 4720347)
Great build. The trunk has to be the biggest pain in the butt.

Keep her going.

Yes sir. my back still hurts from doing that damn trunk.....I should have waited for the rotisserie.


Ok, I had an almost 3 full day weekend to do nothing but perform solid work on the ole goat. Most of which, I took full advantage of.

I really kicked around the idea of not using a rotisserie, but I'm glad I went ahead and got one. One of the best hands I have ever used. With that said, it helped me tackle the rear floor pan. The entire rear floor pan did not really need to come out....just the rear pass side needed some patching, but once I was able to visually see how much rot was there, I decided to pull the entire rear pan and fix the rust since I had the parts. The rear floor pan brace was the worst part. There was alot of rot on the inner rocker panel as well, so I addressed that too. Installed the new pan and rear brace.....looks damn good if I say so myself.

Pictures really don't do this justice as there is so much underneath that you can't see, but here are the pix anyway......

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...O/IMG_1158.jpg

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More to come.......

Kokamo 09-09-2012 01:53 AM

Ok, it's been one hellova long week. Working 12 hour days and then working 4~5 hours on this car per night can really wear a guy out. Regardless, I made alot of progress. I'm thinking I got about 98% of all the rust removed from this car. The other 2% is basic normal surface rust here and there. I managed to get the rear floor pan done as noted in my last update, but this week I got both front floor pan patches done. Those 2 were the single easiest things to do on this car so far. The rotisserie made it a breeze.

Once all/most of the metal work was done, I spent the next few evenings scraping and grinding off all the grease, grime, road dirt, sticky asphalt someone drove thru at one point, and surface rust and anything on the belly of the car so I could get it ready for a nice coat of POR-15. Once that was done I had to clean all surfaces with thinner/alcohol, then went over all body seams inside and out with 3M seam sealer, then laid down 2 nice thick coats of rust preventative (POR-15).....man it looks great!

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Verdoro 68 09-09-2012 04:10 AM

It's unbelievable how fast you are tearing through that car. It's looks great! Looking forward to future updates.

RUFFJUDGE 09-09-2012 12:15 PM

Great job!
 
I agree with Ken, man, what am awesome job and you are really kicking butt getting through it! Looking forward to seeing you go through this and hearing your dads reaction when you are done.
Thats a really great thing to do for your Father! Good luck with the rest of the project.

Dennis

Kokamo 09-17-2012 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Verdoro 68 (Post 4727089)
It's unbelievable how fast you are tearing through that car. It's looks great! Looking forward to future updates.

Yes sir! and thanks!!! I try to spend every spare minute I can when I'm not working at my regular job. That's the only way I'll get it done on time. At this moment, I have 7 months and 5 days to get it completed. I have set myself a deadline of one month ahead simply because I want to get all the paperwork done and out of the way....also to make damn sure she runs and drives like a real Goat...and is a dependable one at that. So, that means I have just over 6 months to do this. Man I hope I have enough time. Gonna be a cold bitter winter out in the shop I'm betting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUFFJUDGE (Post 4727302)
I agree with Ken, man, what am awesome job and you are really kicking butt getting through it! Looking forward to seeing you go through this and hearing your dads reaction when you are done.
Thats a really great thing to do for your Father! Good luck with the rest of the project.

Dennis

Thanks Dennis. Gettin'-er-dun as fast as possible. I feel I'm a month or so behind tho. Had some delays very early in the build, but I think I'm making up for it from what I've done this week. Read on. And thanks!!! The ole man deserves it!!!

Ok gents, a small update. Got some good progress done this week. Once I got the belly of the Goat POR15'd, I got er off the rotisserie, set her down on the floor and commenced work on the chassis. The ole frame was in pretty good shape other than a couple places where the body mounts....found some rust issues there, but it was a very quick fix. Spent a few days pulling things apart and scraping any dirt/grease off the frame and getting ready for more POR15. I didn't take any before pics, but I did manage to get a few after's. Once done, the body went on the frame with all new bushings, bolts and washers.

Also, today I spent the day cleaning up the ole 400. I prolly would have left it alone, but the previous owner painted it FORD blue. I honestly wanted the throw up when I looked at it, so I had to make the change....and I'm glad I did. She's gonna look great!!!

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Sadly, I did not get any pics of the body on the frame...my batteries croaked and when I got new ones, I forgot to snap a few. I'll get to that later I'm sure.

Motor before with FORD BLUE :gag:

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...O/IMG_1199.jpg

About 8 hours later...

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...O/IMG_1234.jpg

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On a side note, I found the transmission in this car is the born with trans. Found the numbers on the pass side of the trans....

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...O/IMG_1201.jpg

Which match the VIN#....

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...O/IMG_1224.jpg

Sadly, the engine is not numbers matching. Sux, but at least I have a good running mill. Not real sure of how to decipher what year it is or what it came out of. I took a pic of every casting number/stamp on it, can someone help me?

Also, found this on the rear left outside of the frame....

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...O/IMG_1222.jpg

I was not able to locate a VIN# stamped on the top of the frame anywhere in this location. Seems I read that not all frames were stamped??? I'm absolutely sure the frame is original since, #1, it looked like the body had never been off the frame, and #2, the frame dates (July 22nd of 1968) seems to be the appropriate date to the VIN# of the car (oo140)....very early build number. Cool stuff.

Anyway, like always, more to come! Thanks for checkin' my old junk out!

~Joe

android 211 09-17-2012 02:07 AM

Isn't that engine color a '72 up color? '69s are supposed to be silver blue.


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