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DM3 07-18-2019 04:51 PM

Halogen headlight suggestions
 
I have been talked out of LED and HALO headlights by two friends.


I am going to go to halogen headlights. I would like to be able to replace the bulbs, any suggestions out there?

I would also like the high beam lenses to be amber.



Thanks DM3

OG68 07-18-2019 07:08 PM

https://www.danielsternlighting.com/.../products.html

Daniel Stern has been around for a long time and is known for quality Cibie products.
He may also have a line on amber lens.

92GTA 07-19-2019 01:27 PM

I have no suggestions for Halogen, but if you decide to do LED "PROPERLY" with the right type of bulb in the right type of housing, I went with these:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GUPLFMQ

https://www.lasfit.com/products/ls-p...eadlight-bulbs

Most people are idiots and put the wrong type of bulbs in housings that weren't meant for them and they blind people. I HATE those dicks.

67 455 Bird ragtop 07-20-2019 08:36 PM

Any experience with the Octane lights?? LED or hallogen ...

Zyman 07-30-2019 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DM3 (Post 6042009)
I have been talked out of LED and HALO headlights by two friends.


I am going to go to halogen headlights. I would like to be able to replace the bulbs, any suggestions out there?

I would also like the high beam lenses to be amber.



Thanks DM3

Problem with halogens is they are yesterday's tech and you need to run relays to draw current directly from the battery (added cost). If you do not they do not get enough power from your stock wiring. The best solution I found was this LED product https://www.cjponyparts.com/headligh...-1969/p/HLA55/ It has the added benefit of providing both the headlights and bright lights at reasonable cost.

DM3 07-31-2019 09:44 AM

2 Attachment(s)
Here are the headlights I went with, both are halogen with replaceable bulbs. I was told they are direct replacement, no additional wiring required.

Low Beam: United Pacific Crystal Round Headlight 5-3/4",
https://www.jegs.com/i/United-Pacifi...31386/10002/-1

High Beam: Octane Lighting - Single - 5-3/4" Halogen Amber Yellow Glass Headlight Fog Light H4 60W Light Bulb
http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBa...71286000&ver=0

Both needed some modification. I didn't want to modify the existing light housing so I modified the light instead. Both needed some grinding and/or modification. Both have glass lens and metal body.

The pictures are a test fit and will need additional fitting to sit correctly.

Zyman 07-31-2019 10:00 AM

DM3 - those look like a good choice. My understanding of the current requirements for halogen bulbs is that while they will "work" with stock wiring, they will not perform to their designed level due to lack of available current. I installed similar halogens on my 2nd gen and they were notably better performing after installing relays to draw direct from the battery. Perhaps others could comment.

DM3 07-31-2019 12:01 PM

If they are not bright enough, maybe I can find LED lights that fit the lighting housing and replace them down the road.

DM3

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Originally Posted by Zyman (Post 6046163)
DM3 - those look like a good choice. My understanding of the current requirements for halogen bulbs is that while they will "work" with stock wiring, they will not perform to their designed level due to lack of available current. I installed similar halogens on my 2nd gen and they were notably better performing after installing relays to draw direct from the battery. Perhaps others could comment.


JLMounce 07-31-2019 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zyman (Post 6046163)
DM3 - those look like a good choice. My understanding of the current requirements for halogen bulbs is that while they will "work" with stock wiring, they will not perform to their designed level due to lack of available current. I installed similar halogens on my 2nd gen and they were notably better performing after installing relays to draw direct from the battery. Perhaps others could comment.

This is my understanding as well. Even the sealed beam stock type lights can benefit from the use of a relay.

I'm still waiting for Dapper Lighting to release their OE glass 5.75" Once that happens I'll be going that direction more than likely.

At this point currently I actively avoid driving the car at night, especially on a dimly lit highway at speeds above 50mph. It's simply not safe with sealed beams and the factory wiring.

XLR8STEVE 07-31-2019 01:37 PM

Use 2 relays, one for low and one for high beams. Easy to do. Really improves lights. I usually tuck them at the drivers side of the radiator support where they can not be seen.

JLMounce 07-31-2019 05:58 PM

Do you have a rough wiring schematic on that deal?

67 455 Bird ragtop 08-09-2019 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JLMounce (Post 6046307)
Do you have a rough wiring schematic on that deal?

Try this http://www.madelectrical.com/electri...adlights.shtml GREAT site for anything electrical. Beware if you call. Mark will talk you to death ... LOL

First Bird 08-20-2019 11:39 AM

I did a Hella E-code conversion, these are European spec headlamps.
Halogen bulbs are replaceable and as bright as you want.
Relays are mandatory if you don't want a fire.
The guy at www.rallylights.com was helpful. This was 8 years ago but they're still in business

Lee 08-20-2019 12:04 PM

Lots of BAD LEDs, but there are some good ones as well.

Start with this video: https://youtu.be/peFLmu2MfTg then maybe watch some of his other stuff.

These are what I will most likely install in my '73 in the near future: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Anzo-881035...53.m1438.l2649


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