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Chris65LeMans 01-14-2022 04:03 PM

Need Oil Filter for a '65 LeMans with headers.
 
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Getting everything together now. My car is a 4 speed, has Doug's headers and has a Lakewood bell housing.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1642190416

The supplied oil filter will fit in it's spot, but we can't get it up there.

My choices are:

1. Find a narrower oil filter.
2. Set up remote oil filter.
3. Unbolt the oil filter housing and pull it out the top every time I do an oil change. (Been there, don't want to do that again.)

I like to keep things simple, so my preferred solution is #1. What do y'all think?

Steve C. 01-14-2022 04:21 PM

Check if the WIX 51045 will work.


https://www.finditparts.com/products...-filters-51045


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Mike Davis 01-14-2022 04:31 PM

Best one right here. Been running these for about 4 years now. Nice to be able to inspect for particles and wash and go.

https://kandpengineering.com/product/S16/

Gary H 01-14-2022 04:45 PM

I have run into this multiple times on customer's cars that have D port Doug's headers and a 4 manual transmission. All the cars were using a factory bell housings though. What I have done is modifying the bell housing so that I can get a full size filter in there. I take a grinder and remove material till I can get it through the opening.

tom s 01-14-2022 05:16 PM

The Exact reason I tell guys with true street cars to run RA manifolds over headers.FWIW,Tom

i82much 01-14-2022 05:30 PM

I have a 65 four speed with round port doug's headers and mcleod bell. I run the HP2006 filter because the nut on the bottom makes life way easier.

Steve C. 01-14-2022 05:30 PM

When I had previous header clearance issues I ran a System-1 210 series "Spin On" Billet oil filter similar to what Mike posted. I used to get badgered on occasions because it had only a 30 micron screen.

Possibly this might be of help:

https://pontiacstreetperformance.com...iladapter.html

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TransAm 474 01-14-2022 05:33 PM

We have always used the Wix 51045 for header applications that doesn't have any room for a standard sized filter.

64speed 01-14-2022 07:48 PM

Wix 51258, or Baldwin B39

ponjohn 01-14-2022 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Davis (Post 6310665)
Best one right here. Been running these for about 4 years now. Nice to be able to inspect for particles and wash and go.

https://kandpengineering.com/product/S16/


What do you wash it with?

Steve C. 01-14-2022 08:25 PM

Wix 51258

That's considered the 'regular' size filter and similar to the old Delco PF-24
He needs to evaluate it's dimensions.


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64speed 01-14-2022 09:08 PM

51258 is on my 64 with Dougs round ports and the aftermarket bellhousing that has a starter kickout on each side

ZeGermanHam 01-14-2022 09:10 PM

Chris: I'm not sure which filter you're currently working with, but for reference if it helps, I have a Wix 51258 on the desk in front of me. It measures exactly 4-1/4" tall and 3-5/8" wide. Those are the real-life measurements, which vary slightly from the official published numbers. I'm hoping to use this filter in my '66 with Doug's d-port headers - although I have an automatic with stock TH400 bellhousing. Time will tell.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom s (Post 6310677)
The Exact reason I tell guys with true street cars to run RA manifolds over headers.FWIW,Tom

I agree, but good luck getting your hands on a pair of RA manifolds these days, though. They've been on backorder at RARE for over a year.

tom s 01-14-2022 10:16 PM

D ports have not been a big issue for a bodies or 2nd gen birds or first gens.Tom

ZeGermanHam 01-14-2022 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom s (Post 6310791)
D ports have not been a big issue for a bodies or 2nd gen birds or first gens.Tom

If you're referring to D-port RA manifolds, that was not my experience for my 66 A-body. I had an order in with RARE for a set of D-port manifolds for a very long time last year. Paul is/was unable to get LH manifold castings for D-ports, but he continued to tell me for many months that he was getting more in "next week". That never happened, so I had to bail on the order. I think there are a few other folks here who hit the same wall as me with getting D-port RA manifolds from RARE. Maybe the D-port RA manifolds sold by other companies are more readily available - no clue on that.

ANDYA 01-15-2022 09:53 AM

It's hard to tell by the angle of the picture in the first post, but what about trying the Firebird long branch filter adapter. It will tilt the filter to the 7-8 o clock position and may clear a larger filter.

Gary H 01-15-2022 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom s (Post 6310791)
D ports have not been a big issue for a bodies or 2nd gen birds or first gens.Tom

Tom, I've never had a problem with an automatic equipped 64-67 A body with D port Doug headers, but manual transmission cars with the factory bell housings have been the issue. I have had to partially remove the passenger side starter "ear" on the bellhousing so I can get the filters in there. Surprisingly, round port headers for the same car don't have the issue. Only D port ones. Weird!

66sprint6 01-15-2022 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeGermanHam (Post 6310799)
If you're referring to D-port RA manifolds, that was not my experience for my 66 A-body. I had an order in with RARE for a set of D-port manifolds for a very long time last year. Paul is/was unable to get LH manifold castings for D-ports, but he continued to tell me for many months that he was getting more in "next week". That never happened, so I had to bail on the order. I think there are a few other folks here who hit the same wall as me with getting D-port RA manifolds from RARE. Maybe the D-port RA manifolds sold by other companies are more readily available - no clue on that.

Agreed. I gave up calling them for an update even. Waste of time.

PunchT37 01-15-2022 10:36 AM

Wix 51522 or AC PF61 [not 61E].

Mike Davis 01-15-2022 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponjohn (Post 6310749)
What do you wash it with?

Brake Cleaner. Been running these on a few street cars and on my race car. Nice to be able to open it up so easily and inspect for debris.


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