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post toastie 01-02-2020 11:07 PM

1971 judge pilot car
 
cool muscle car of the week video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUpW...lejdL5&index=1

Ram4king 01-02-2020 11:54 PM

Personally I think it's a turd.

thepontiacman 01-02-2020 11:59 PM

Nice Judge.

Brewster 01-03-2020 08:03 AM

Why would you not fix the front valance?? Looks like a sad car with that frown.

Ram4king 01-03-2020 10:15 AM

Nothing like they say it is.
Wrong engine
Wrong color
Not original paint
Missing key pieces
Probably is a pilot car but that's about it.

3goats 01-03-2020 01:38 PM

The air cleaner did it for me. Like come on??

Pepper Judge 01-03-2020 02:12 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Has some issues but we would all drive that 71 Judge, I expect.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...2&d=1578074629

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Originally Posted by 3goats (Post 6096988)
The air cleaner did it for me. Like come on??

That was 15 seconds in

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brewster (Post 6096904)
Why would you not fix the front valance?? Looks like a sad car with that frown.

Should be fixed really even if trying to leave it as is.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...4&d=1578074672


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Originally Posted by Ram4king (Post 6096936)
Nothing like they say it is.
Wrong engine
Wrong color
Not original paint
Missing key pieces
Probably is a pilot car but that's about it.

Late version of a 71 Hood too for one of the first 71 production Judges as seen clearly at 3:56 and other places in the YouTube clip.

'ol Pinion head 01-03-2020 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ram4king (Post 6096936)
Nothing like they say it is.
Wrong engine
Wrong color
Not original paint
Missing key pieces
Probably is a pilot car but that's about it.

Known of this exact Judge for over 20 years. It def needs a little work & a few expensive parts.
I found the narrative by the caretaker beyond dumb & insulting.

John Milner 01-03-2020 04:17 PM

I like the bolt shoved in the piece of rubber hose to block off a vacuum port in the front of the carb. Still a rare and good looking car though.

starlightblack 01-03-2020 05:06 PM

THATS IN THE BROTHERS COLLECTION???? WOW, they usually only have top, top quality cars!

This is neither unrestored or a survivor. That front valance is a mess. I say restore it to concours.

'ol Pinion head 01-03-2020 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by starlightblack (Post 6097055)
THATS IN THE BROTHERS COLLECTION???? WOW, they usually only have top, top quality cars!

This is neither unrestored or a survivor. That front valance is a mess. I say restore it to concours.

-remove front valance, have it metal finshed, good old school bodyman could knock it out in few hours. Maybe too expensive on the West Coast... Hmmm.
-consider recreating early '71 hood with metal work to leading edge of hood. Might as well, as not going to find a May of '70 dated '71 hood. Important detail.
-refinish both, at the very minimum, the front valance.
-remove coresupport plastic baffle, not original to an early '71.
-install missing correct studded head bolts.
-replace head of washer pump, service replacement from the 80's...c'mon.
-install correct support brackets & '71 RA aircleaner, top plate & correct bolts & boots.
-good car for a non stamped open frame alternator. not going to find a "927" built that early.
-time for some undercarriage detailing & aluminized exhaust.
-am sure there is more...

Last, refilm another video. show a pic of the cowl tag to back up the hype, lose the purported "Surviver" BS as well as the "it runs, shifts, etc better than most restored musclecars, yada, yada". Sorry dufus, but there are quite a few "well optimized" all correct component restored '71 & 72 HO cars that would leave this '71 waaaay back in view of their tail lights.

CDN2PLS2 01-03-2020 08:06 PM

How Low IS the VIN?

'ol Pinion head 01-03-2020 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CDN2PLS2 (Post 6097097)
How Low IS the VIN?

1P100019

Judge273 01-04-2020 12:24 PM

I agree Roger. Leaves a bad taste when they own those beautiful 71 White Judge verts...

What's the build date?

johnmilza 01-05-2020 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'ol Pinion head (Post 6097088)
-remove front valance, have it metal finshed, good old school bodyman could knock it out in few hours. Maybe too expensive on the West Coast... Hmmm.
-consider recreating early '71 hood with metal work to leading edge of hood. Might as well, as not going to find a May of '70 dated '71 hood. Important detail.
-refinish both, at the very minimum, the front valance.
-remove coresupport plastic baffle, not original to an early '71.
-install missing correct studded head bolts.
-replace head of washer pump, service replacement from the 80's...c'mon.
-install correct support brackets & '71 RA aircleaner, top plate & correct bolts & boots.
-good car for a non stamped open frame alternator. not going to find a "927" built that early.
-time for some undercarriage detailing & aluminized exhaust.
-am sure there is more...

Last, refilm another video. show a pic of the cowl tag to back up the hype, lose the purported "Surviver" BS as well as the "it runs, shifts, etc better than most restored musclecars, yada, yada". Sorry dufus, but there are quite a few "well optimized" all correct component restored '71 & 72 HO cars that would leave this '71 waaaay back in view of their tail lights.

Plus repair the peeling wood grain on dash bezel and the detail around the gauges where silver/chrome is missing

CDN2PLS2 01-05-2020 06:22 PM

Must be from the Surf City collection.

Baron Von Zeppelin 01-06-2020 03:02 PM

surf city , yep .
Knew the details had a familiar sound , but couldn't get the bells to ring.

Anyone have copies of Invoices or Buildsheet for this car ?

post toastie 01-07-2020 01:24 AM

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PHS for the pilot car?

Judge273 01-07-2020 06:29 AM

I wonder what the trim plate build date is? Got to believe its a 8A or 8B?

https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0518-32...dge-pilot-car/

'ol Pinion head 01-07-2020 09:18 AM

Earlier than that, think June.


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