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70FormulaCA 03-14-2019 12:13 AM

1970 Firebird Chrome Tail Pipes - are these original?
 
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Are these tail pipes 1970 originals? They are from a 1970 Firebird Formula.

Please let me know if more pictures or info are needed. Thanks.

Uncle Judge 03-14-2019 12:13 AM

Nope! Not even close.

455hota 03-14-2019 06:48 AM

Second that opinion: nope definitely not 1970.

Should be like:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...989c14125e.jpg


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Norwood 03-14-2019 12:15 PM

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Agree with above

Uncle Judge 03-14-2019 12:28 PM

Maybe these pictures of the full extensions will be a little more helpful?
Here is a set of original 1970 tips.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ce6e569fea.jpg


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Uncle Judge 03-14-2019 12:31 PM

And here are a few pics of the 1970 extensions compared to the 71-73 extensionshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ec190ea4fe.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...fc0d8692cb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...eaf8e62d59.jpg.


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unruhjonny 03-14-2019 12:33 PM

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not only did I get beat to the punch, but I got clobbered!!

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1552581315

Again, I am glad to see membership helping out!

The people make this site unarguably the best resource for enthusiasts like myself :D

Norwood 03-14-2019 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Judge (Post 6002455)
And here are a few pics of the 1970 extensions compared to the 71-73 extensionshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ec190ea4fe.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...fc0d8692cb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...eaf8e62d59.jpg.


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Is there anything you don’t have ?

Uncle Judge 03-14-2019 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Norwood (Post 6002542)
Is there anything you don’t have ?

There is plenty that I don't have Craig. Including my sanity! :oogle:

unruhjonny 03-14-2019 05:30 PM

what would any of you suggest for the best source for replacement 70 tips?

I bought some of the first run of PY repops, I was quite disappointed with the terrible chrome quailty...
(those are them in my picture)
These ones are probably good enough to get re-chromed...

Or maybe the repops are getting better quality now??

Bentwheelbob 03-14-2019 08:58 PM

I’m nominating you for Garage Makeover”....


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Originally Posted by unruhjonny (Post 6002456)
not only did I get beat to the punch, but I got clobbered!!

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1552581315


unruhjonny 03-14-2019 10:17 PM

ha!

that level of disarray didn't last too long...
that's what happens when house renos are happening on the cheap, and the car gets sidelined a bit...

doing flooring over much of the main floor right now - but I can report nothing is on the (partially assembled) car.

Formulabruce 03-14-2019 10:46 PM

Tips. I Very Highly recommend Gardner exhaust. They are just perfect, and thick triple chrome. That said, You may have to buy the exhaust to be able to quality for tips, OR send them your last over axle pieces so they ensure a perfect fit. I think Mine cost 250, but I think BJ has bought that exhaust a lot closer to now than I have. Gardner has both tips. Many will cringe at the price, but I will say its worth it.

70FormulaCA 03-15-2019 12:16 AM

Thank you all for the detailed responses! Awesome and much appreciated!!!

unruhjonny 03-15-2019 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Formulabruce (Post 6002685)
Tips. I Very Highly recommend Gardner exhaust. They are just perfect, and thick triple chrome. That said, You may have to buy the exhaust to be able to quality for tips, OR send them your last over axle pieces so they ensure a perfect fit. I think Mine cost 250, but I think BJ has bought that exhaust a lot closer to now than I have. Gardner has both tips. Many will cringe at the price, but I will say its worth it.

Thanks for the tip!
(punn intended)

Rocky Rotella 03-15-2019 05:10 PM

We all assume the 48-degree cut replaced the 25-degree cut with the beginning of the 1971 model year, and that may very well be the case, but the original blueprint for the tailpipe extension shows a modification date of mid-July 1970.

I've been trying to determine if it was indeed with new model year production or if the 48-degree cut was phased during the 1971 model year shortly after production startup.

The UAW strike really wreaked havoc on early 1971 model year production and a lot changed when production resumed, so finding photos of early 1971 model year Pontiacs has been difficult.

Secondgenaddict 03-30-2019 10:18 PM

I hope one day I learn how to make full size pics on this forum.:confused:

Transamric 03-31-2019 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocky Rotella (Post 6003008)
We all assume the 48-degree cut replaced the 25-degree cut with the beginning of the 1971 model year, and that may very well be the case, but the original blueprint for the tailpipe extension shows a modification date of mid-July 1970.

I've been trying to determine if it was indeed with new model year production or if the 48-degree cut was phased during the 1971 model year shortly after production startup.

FWIW, can say that the 07E NOR '70 TA I owned had the early slant design, which by the poor condition, I assumed to be original.


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