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Bentwheelbob 03-20-2016 04:10 PM

1972 Idle Solenoid Bracket Finish
 
What's the correct finish for a 1972 idle solenoid bracket? Bare steel, gold cad, silver cad, gray or black phosphate? I have two votes already for gold cad from F'Bruce and Pepi. Below from left to right is a NOS solenoid with a silver cad bracket from Inline, an original bracket and solenoid refinished with bare steel paint, and the one that was on the Black Car when it arrived.

I am getting ready to ship a bunch of stuff off for plating and want to get it right. Thanks for any help.

http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/...psynikji30.jpg

Pepi 03-20-2016 08:03 PM

Just to clarify, when I mentioned mine was gold cad, mine is a 73.

marxjunk 03-20-2016 08:44 PM

i just sold one a real survivor piece and it was gold too..it was a 72

cant trust NOS to be right...by now most NOS is service pieces that some how survived..

ive pulled parts out of the string tie boxes and they where diff colors..so be aware.

Brewster 03-21-2016 06:59 PM

Correct bracket is gold cad from what Ive seen through the years

71 T/A 03-22-2016 09:06 AM

I like the middle one, looks great.

Lloyd-TX 03-22-2016 03:23 PM

Bob, I'm darned near 100% certain the the OEM finish on those brackets was a grey phosphate.

That said, when I'm 100% certain I'm usually proven wrong!

Lloyd-TX 03-22-2016 03:31 PM

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FWIW - here is a photo I took of the OEM bracket on my '72 Formula 400, prior to disassembly. Appears to me to be gray (or faded black) phosphate?

carnut4life 03-22-2016 07:25 PM

The bracket on the assembly line 1972 WM Code 455 HO pictured on the 455HO website sure looks to me like its dark gray or black too. Sorry, but I'm not smart enough to attach it.

Bentwheelbob 03-22-2016 09:00 PM

Just when I thought there was consensus....

It would be nice to see that picture. Maybe this was like other things where there were multiple correct answers depending on supplier sourcing and time of year.

PB 03-22-2016 09:48 PM

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Appears to me, IMO, the bracket is the black phosphate, as the bolts are black phosphate. The unit does appear to have remnants of that gold clad under the protected area, but not 100%

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...0&d=1458697677

PB 03-22-2016 09:51 PM

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Flip side

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...1&d=1458697810

carnut4life 03-22-2016 10:15 PM

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I tried attaching the pic from Pat's website. Hope it works?

marxjunk 03-22-2016 10:47 PM

well heck..i was wrong..and have no idea i was convinced it was gold...my memory isnt wqhat it used to be..the survivor one i sold is prob the one Pat posted a pic of, since i sold it to him..because here it is before i shipped it..bout a month ago..i couldnt find the pics last week
http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/p...psdz7q3xgs.jpg
http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/p...psala7jyi1.jpg
http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps0bwczlcb.jpg

PB 03-22-2016 11:23 PM

Yup, that's it Mark

Brewster 03-23-2016 07:22 AM

Yes, I too need to look back at pictures to verify memory. No body said it was going to be easy getting old. Pictured below is my old 73 car that shows NO gold cad for that year.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...m/100_0476.jpg

Bentwheelbob 03-23-2016 09:42 AM

Thanks Pat. Here are a couple other pictures Pat sent me that show the bracket with the solenoid removed. You can see the area that was under the solenoid arm and not exposed.


http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5bvq9mry.jpg

http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/...psr1svgcds.jpg

Lloyd-TX 03-23-2016 09:59 AM

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Just to add one more photo that I forgot about, here's a poor shot of my friend Joe Parish's 1972 455HO Formula carburetor and idle stop solenoid / bracket.

Appears to me to be gray (or faded black) phosphate.

This is an original 38,000 mile car and engine.

superdutybob 03-23-2016 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lloyd-TX (Post 5551660)
Just to add one more photo that I forgot about, here's a poor shot of my friend Joe Parish's 1973 455HO Formula carburetor and idle stop solenoid / bracket.

Appears to me to be gray (or faded black) phosphate.

This is an original 38,000 mile car and engine.

73 455HO huh! That's new one on me Lloyd! You are getting old! LOL

Lloyd-TX 03-23-2016 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by superdutybob (Post 5551677)
73 455HO huh! That's new one on me Lloyd! You are getting old! LOL

Ooooooooooops! My bad. Need to proof-read my posts more carefully. :o

Thanks for correcting me, Bob. I've now corrected my goof-up!

4birds 03-23-2016 11:38 AM

Idle Solenoid Bracket Color
 
I now own Joe Parish's old 38000 mile car. And yes the bracket is black phosphate coated. I have 2 other 72's that the bracket is also black.


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