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cuz68 01-13-2009 01:21 AM

The best post that I have seen in the loby in a long time, Thanks for the info.

Jeff Hamlin 01-13-2009 07:08 AM

Fisher Wartime Ad...
 
This one I have is from Fisher Body Works, with I think the before mentioned bomber.

SWEETJUDGE 01-13-2009 09:28 AM

if i keep learning i will keep sharing... i thought this was soooo cool i was blown away.

Keith Seymore 01-13-2009 09:40 AM

Here are a couple of ads provided by CityDesk for an earlier thread:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3.../WWIIPontI.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...WWIIPontII.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by citydesk175 (Post 3532560)
I went to GMnext.com and grabbed this list from their history section that I posted in the first place. There is also a scan of a photo album honoring the Milford Proving Ground efforts in WWII which I will leave as an exercize for the digitally skilled.

CD - do you want me to post some samples from the album?

K

Keith Seymore 01-13-2009 10:00 AM

A few more (non Pontiac) General Motors ads, also courtesy of CityDesk -

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...B194X-0056.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...B1944-0001.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...C194X-0040.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...C194X-0041.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...C194X-0042.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...C194X-0045.jpg

Keith Seymore 01-13-2009 10:20 AM

And - lastly - I was not able to convert the album to files such that it could be viewed here, so I will provide a link to the GM website where it is covered.

This photo album was produced in 1945. It documents an open house held at the GM Milford Proving Ground celebrating the war's end and GM's efforts. You will see tanks and other ordinance being tested and on display at the MPG.

This album was in the possession of CityDesk, who provided it to the GM Heritage Center where it now resides and is on display.

http://wiki.gmnext.com/wiki/index.ph...n_World_War_II

Please let me know if the link doesn't work or if you need some kind of security password to view.

K

citydesk175 01-13-2009 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore (Post 3534128)
And - lastly - I was not able to convert the album to files such that it could be viewed here, so I will provide a link to the GM website where it is covered.

This photo album was produced in 1945. It documents an open house held at the GM Milford Proving Ground celebrating the war's end and GM's efforts. You will see tanks and other ordinance being tested and on display at the MPG.

This album was in the possession of CityDesk, who provided it to the GM Heritage Center where it now resides and is on display.

http://wiki.gmnext.com/wiki/index.ph...n_World_War_II

Please let me know if the link doesn't work or if you need some kind of security password to view.

K

The album is still in my hands, GM just scanned it at high res and the scans are in the hands of heritage ctr, GM photo archives etc.
That book was nowhere to be found in any GM archive till I found it at Salvation Army Store in Pontiac MI for five for a dollar and brought it in.

I had the picture of the tanks enlarged to 24x36 and mounted on foam-core and then sent the mounted pix to a lot of GM executives including Lutz and Jim Queen who are the Corporate reps to the GM Diversity Veterans group.

Thanks to Bob and Jim for their continued support of GM veterans and NG & Reserve employees too.

citydesk175 01-13-2009 12:52 PM

The GM ads
 
I bought all those GM WWII ads at the same Salvation Army Store
They had a huge collection of Life magazines dating back to WWII and wanted $4.00 plus per issue for them.
I kept looking through the pile and bought a few but blanched at the price

after a few weeks, I went through the stack and noticed that at the bottom, there was a pile of loose pages and covers.... I stacked up all the car ads, the WWII ads and covers and interesting full articles I could find. I had a 6 inch pile and got it all for $4.00.

I sorted out the GM ads: WWII and car ads too and took the package to my local GM photo archives guy and he had them all scanned for the archive and returned them with a disc

I ordered a complete set of the WWII ads in 24x36 mounted on foam-core and had them delivered to the GM Vets group for their annual Veterans Day get together at the Tech Center in Warren.

Whe I got to the meeting, the posters were on display all around the room. I mentioned to Ken MacLeod, the president of the Vets Group that I would like Lutz and Queen to take their pick of the posters for their offices. The two VP's cheerfully chose a poster. (It is not everyday that one can change the decor of a GM VP's office)
Hopefully the posters are still there reminding visitors that GM did something for the country when it was desperately needed

Anyway, the ads that Keith has posted are all proudly displayed at every Veteran's Day meeting in Warren and will continue to be there for a long time.

citydesk175

JLHarper 01-13-2009 01:20 PM

Neat story! Thanks for sharing and posting, guys.

I always liked Goodwill and SA, but havent found amy Rembrandts or treasures like this before....:)

On the subject of marketing I posted;

Was PONTIAC allowed to put their name or logo on any war material like the 40mm field gun?

Was the original ad you found blacked out showing the ton and units they produced?

Its on the Chiefs head with the three factories ad.

Did they have a War Dept release on the back? Just curious.
Jeff

gtoric 01-13-2009 03:10 PM

Pontiac Motor Division also produced transit buses for civilian and perhaps military use during the war. These buses were built in the Pontiac, MI "daylight" assembly plant.

citydesk175 01-13-2009 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLHarper (Post 3534303)
Neat story! Thanks for sharing and posting, guys.

I always liked Goodwill and SA, but havent found amy Rembrandts or treasures like this before....:)

On the subject of marketing I posted;

Was PONTIAC allowed to put their name or logo on any war material like the 40mm field gun?

Was the original ad you found blacked out showing the ton and units they produced?

Its on the Chiefs head with the three factories ad.

Did they have a War Dept release on the back? Just curious.
Jeff


TKS
The ad appears as published
no release cause it was in Life Magazine

check out the photo album for the thank you letters at the back

Regards
Citydesk175

BTW
I bought a fine art print at SA for 45 bucks
Called Parke West Galleries with the Bar code from the back
They gave me a cert of auth and an appraisal of $3,950 (because I already had an account........ never expect a freebie, and sight unseen from a reputable dealer)

The appraisal is prolly way high in today's market but I love the print and I am going to keep it. (signed, numbered, framed and on hand made paper that is characteristic of the artist's work)

Stu Norman 01-14-2009 12:04 AM

Awesome stuff. Thank you all for sharing.

GTOnly70 01-14-2009 10:53 AM

Would be cool to see someone roll one of those into a POCI show.

citydesk175 01-14-2009 11:18 AM

and a GM built Avenger Bomber too
how about an example of each from the WWII production list.

Many factories made whatever they could during hard times just to keep people busy:
from the Winchester scissors that I have in my collection to the Chrysler made log-splitters that were made for foremen and their friends when Chrysler was in the sales toilet

carbking 01-14-2009 01:56 PM

There is an article in "GM Folks" Volume 4 number 11 (November 1941) on the Pontiac Oerlikon gun.

In the Volume 5 number 3 issue (March 1943), is an article where Pontiac was awarded the Navy "E" for production.

Jon.

Stuart 01-14-2009 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by citydesk175 (Post 3535236)
the Chrysler made log-splitters that were made for foremen and their friends when Chrysler was in the sales toilet

A little off-topic and from a different era, but the Hemi-powered air raid sirens that Chrysler built during the cold war were very cool.

69lm69gp 01-14-2009 04:34 PM

That M2 I'm standing behind in my avatar was made by AC Delco. :D

Silver Judge 01-14-2009 04:49 PM

Thanks Keith and CityDesk for posting this interesting material.
Finding these at the Salvation Army must have surprised you CityDesk! Great Finds!

citydesk175 01-14-2009 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69lm69gp (Post 3535519)
That M2 I'm standing behind in my avatar was made by AC Delco. :D

nice Ma deuce
To quote (I think Jack D. Ripper in DR Strangelove) "I wish I had one of those...... but only for peaceful purposes!"

regards
Citydesk175
Vietnam 69-71
We all have our own wars to fight or remember

citydesk175 01-14-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Judge (Post 3535526)
Thanks Keith and CityDesk for posting this interesting material.
Finding these at the Salvation Army must have surprised you CityDesk! Great Finds!

It was wonderful and I am happy we could post these images at the appropriate time and place.

I just posted some of my favorite images at footnote.com under my name "citydesk175" and it includes my best ever catch at SA "Rapture 2" for $45.00.
check it out.

regards
Citydesk175


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