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A whole new Judge
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Hey all Pontiac aficionados!!
I have an interesting story... I’ve owned my GTO for a couple decades and always knew what I had. A decent 1969 GTO Judge. I’ve got papers and numbers leading me to this conclusion. I decided I wanted the PHS papers (previously I had the GM of Canada sheet), so mailed in my vin and cash. What I received back took me by surprise! I indeed have a 1969 GTO Judge, but it is an original Ram Air IV car! Well I knew the original motor wasn’t in the car (bought it with a ‘67 XH block with 670 heads) but how the hell did that code slip by myself and the previous owner??? Well the GM sheet had the correct L67 code (Ram Air IV), but wrote the wrong engine down. So now I’m on the hunt for a unicorn.... a ‘69 Ram Air IV block 9792506 WW cast, early in the year of ‘69 Or better yet, a winged unicorn ;)... the original born with block, vin# 299832 If anyone has or knows of such a unicorn, please let me know!! My car was built in Pontiac MI, and shipped up the Oshawa, Ont. I have no idea which dealership sold it, and how it came across Canada... it is now in Vancouver, BC |
WOW!
Congrats on your 'find'. :D That looks like the Canadian invoice though? (not PHS) That was probably a heck of a car back then. :) |
BTW, any pics of your car?
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Canadian/Oshawa/Vintage vehicle services will tell you the dealer
Canadian/Oshawa/Vintage vehicle services will tell you the dealer
george_zapora@outlook.com john_agueci@outlook.com Vintage Vehicle Services Inc. 1189 Colonel Sam Drive, Oshawa, ON L1H 8W8 Tel: 905 440 7697 • Fax: 905 440 7644 |
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Good looking Judge!
What size are the rear tires? :) |
Awesome, and congrats! How long have you owned the car?
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Tires are 295/50r15
Owned this car about 22 years... second goat I’ve owned. |
Man, that is one sweet ride. Any history of previous owners? Maybe you could trace it backwards from the person you bought it from, and figure out who the motor was sold to. Good luck
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The Vintage Vehicle Services document is something completely different. Sounds like they made a pretty big mistake. Eddie, depending how long ago you got the GM Canada document, and if it was George Zapora who did it for you (he's been there a long time), he might be willing to get you a corrected one gratis. |
Nice car, made even nicer by this discovery! Good luck with the hunt for the original block! 4-speed with the 4.33 gears and a RAIV was a bad-ass combination for the street scene. Would love to know the story of the last race that took out that engine.
BJ |
Nice story with your car so I thought I would share my story with GM of Canada with my Judge . Although not a ram air 4. I bought this car what I always thought was a real Judge but after I purchased it, the owner gave me the GM of Canada papers and a copy of the micro film build sheet. The GM Canada build sheet was missing WT1.(Judge) but when I closely zoomed in on the micro film (which they don't give out anymore) it clearly had WT1. On the GM Canada sheet all the codes where there except WT1 was a WS2,
So I sent for the PHS documents and when I received them I was relieved It had WT1 (Judge) instead of WS2 which if I remember was the code for rear shoulder belts? Don't think i've ever heard of anybody ordering WS2? PS Would of been nice to be a RA4 LOL! but i'm just as glad it was a real 69 Judge. |
Thanks Keith for the clarification. I must not have seen many of them.
:) WS2 - Deluxe Seat Belts & Shoulder Harness- Frt & RR :) |
Had to clarify from my last post that the PHS build sheet came back with 554 UPC code for Judge not WT1 which would be on a Canadian invoice FYI.
Got mixed up there. The car also has WS1 for the deluxe seat belts. Why they added WS2 is a mystery? |
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Congrats to you and your Judge. All of us would be doing backflips and cartwheels in the front yard after getting that information / revelation. Can you post a copy of the initial Canada document with the error ? |
Pretty darn cool!
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