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mysticmissle 10-10-2023 01:57 PM

no more tiger heads? All Pontiac
 
https://butlerperformance.com/b-9992...llpontiac.html

i talked to david butler at norwalk and they definitely said edelbrock pro port victors were more likely to be available then tiger heads. is this the end of All Pontiac? i hope not.

Dragncar 10-10-2023 02:16 PM

Well since those Pro Ports are not being made anymore when they run out, what next ?

mysticmissle 10-10-2023 02:38 PM

David said they will be available to Butler and BES in july

Gach 10-10-2023 03:19 PM

Got a set though BES its their Victor head they flow 480 cfm. Redesign pro port head. Thank you uncle Tony…LOL its their 72 cc chamber.

Gach 10-10-2023 03:26 PM

My understanding is they are dealing Direct with Edelbrock and worked on the new design but can also deal through Butler. Get in line, no tire kickers..LOL

Formulajones 10-10-2023 04:07 PM

Last time I talked to Frank he was having an issue finding someone to cast his heads, preferably in the US is what I understood.

Maybe since then it's as Gach stated, he ended up having Edelbrock cast them. So that's good news.

Gach 10-10-2023 04:20 PM

Kauffman (KRE ) someone posted a while back, who was trying to get KRE block and was told by Kauffman, there was none available because they were looking for a new foundry to cast new blocks. I don’t know if that situation has changed.

mysticmissle 10-10-2023 04:22 PM

Frank says it’s only a temporary delay in heads and blocks

Gach 10-10-2023 04:24 PM

A lot has changed in the past 2 going on 3 years, Leonatti was bought out by Comp cams and Comp cams has been bought out by Edelbrock.

Formulajones 10-10-2023 04:26 PM

Wow, so Kauffman is having the same issue as Frank. Geeez

Dragncar 10-10-2023 05:23 PM

When you decide to get rid of your industrial base these things happen.
I hope Frank and KRE get it all worked out through US foundries.
We will pay more for it but better than offshore.

ponjohn 10-10-2023 08:05 PM

KRE does post skids of raw heads arriving. Are the foundries for a block different capability than blocks?

Gach 10-10-2023 08:33 PM

Foundry for IA blocks used to be casted right here in RI. I did some work at that foundry. Drains where plugged spent 2 days there.

Gach 10-10-2023 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ponjohn (Post 6460169)
KRE does post skids of raw heads arriving. Are the foundries for a block different capability than blocks?

Completely different I think thats what your asking. The block foundries only cast cast iron.

slowbird 10-10-2023 09:19 PM

The Tiger2 head is very nice hopefully it isn't discontinued. The pro port is nice but it doesn't have raised exhaust ports and needed welding around spring pockets for proper roof height (maybe that has been fixed since the first run of heads though??).

Gach 10-10-2023 10:39 PM

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maybe that has been fixed since the first run of heads though??).
BES Victor head. ( more or less their design ) working with Edelbrock. Not at all like the original Port Port head. The valves have been moved around. No sure if it’s offered with raised exhaust port. For me the problem with the tiger head is it’s not offered in 72 cc chamber. Very hard to make a pump gas deal. The Tiger 2 head raised exhaust port, ( not sure if thats only offered in tiger 2 head ) will only work in a tube Chassis car, or heavily modified chassis. No way would I be able to get headers hook up with raised port head. In my stock Chassis. In my opinion the Tiger 2 head is definitely better head for all out hp. Its great they offer Victor head in 72 cc chamber. Compared to the wide port-head. Is definitely a game changer. I mean 80 more cfm, best Wide Port I think is around 400 cfm.

slowbird 10-10-2023 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gach (Post 6460213)
BES Victor head. ( more or less their design ) working with Edelbrock. Not at all like the original Port Port head. The valves have been moved around. No sure if it’s offered with raised exhaust port. For me the problem with the tiger head is it’s not offered in 72 cc chamber. Very hard to make a pump gas deal. The Tiger 2 head raised exhaust port, ( not sure if thats only offered in tiger 2 head ) will only work in a tube Chassis car, or heavily modified chassis. No way would I be able to get headers hook up with raised port head. In my stock Chassis. In my opinion the Tiger 2 head is definitely better head for all out hp. Its great they offer Victor head in 72 cc chamber. Compared to the wide port-head. Is definitely a game changer. I mean 80 more cfm, best Wide Port I think is around 400 cfm.

When you suppose to receive you heads from bes?

Gach 10-10-2023 11:47 PM

I got them last year.

slowbird 10-11-2023 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Gach (Post 6460225)
I got them last year.

Nice! Could you post pics of the chambers and exhaust ports? Curious how best did them.

Gach 10-11-2023 01:05 AM

Nope


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