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ANDYA 12-18-2010 02:49 PM

Woodward Ave, Silver Bullit vs Blackbird
 
I thought this might be an interesting topic. I've been to the Woodward Dream Cruise 3 times and am a buff for the history of street racing around Detroit especially Royal Bobcat cars. I just love reading about this kind of stuff. Anyway, for those who don't know there was a 67 GTX back in the day called the Silver Bullet driven by a guy named Jimmy Addison who hung out on Woodward Ave. The car still exists today and has been restored by its current owner who displays it at the Cruise every year. His claim is that this car has never been beaten in a street race and was considered the king of Woodward Ave. A few months ago I was reading a thread on some forums (can't remember which one) where a few people posted seeing a race between the Silver Bullet and a black 68 Firebird in the early 70's. One poster said it may have been Jim Wanger's car that was called the Blackbird. One guy remembers that the Blackbird won the race, the other said that the race was too close to call. I was just wondering if anyone who grew up in the Detroit area remembers these cars and if the stories are true. A friend of mine has a 67 GTX and constantly goes on about the Silver Bullet being unbeaten. I would love to have some proof that it was in fact beaten and by a Pontiac!

Hammertime Mike 12-18-2010 03:57 PM

This kind of stuff is interesting and fun. Hopefully someone out there has some info.

The Boss 12-18-2010 10:37 PM

Is the silver bullet the car that was specially built by the engineering department to go out street racing and had 4-3" exhaust pipes coming out the back?

ANDYA 12-18-2010 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Boss (Post 4184210)
Is the silver bullet the car that was specially built by the engineering department to go out street racing and had 4-3" exhaust pipes coming out the back?

Yes, thats the car. After the Chrysler engineers were done with the car they sold it to Jimmy Addison for $1. They continued to supply him with parts out the back door to make the car faster. The body had been acid dipped and was about 500lbs less than a stock GTX. By the late 60's-early 70's the car could run in the 10's.

Bob Eiler 12-18-2010 11:46 PM

I remember the GTX. There was at least one article in the car mags about it. It was a factory car and was supposed to be a 9 sec. street car. When I came back from Viet Nam, I was looking for a 67 GTX. I saw a 66 GTO at the Pontiac dealer and bought it instead. The rest is history.

Keith Seymore 12-19-2010 08:58 AM

The Blackbird is currently under the care of PY member Dr Eric Schiffer.

I'll see if I can get him to chime in.

K

The Boss 12-19-2010 10:20 AM

I want to hear the Blackbird story!!!

70Steve 12-19-2010 10:53 AM

In a story I read about the Blackbird, it mentions beating a Super Stock Hemi (that ran 10.70's) by several car lengths. Factory RA I with column auto originally too.
PE Sept/Oct 2006 Boss if you want to save time searching for it. Nice four page article and on the cover as well.

I don't know if that S/S Hemi mentioned is/was the Silver Bullet.

mike nixon 12-19-2010 02:06 PM

This thread is useless without PICTURES!

geogolfx 12-19-2010 05:14 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Well the Mopar is ez to find....

http://www.myrideisme.com/Blog/the-r...odward-cruise/

http://www.myrideisme.com/Blog/woodw...et-last-words/

http://www.silverbulletgtx.com/index.html

http://www.carcraft.com/featuredvehi...gtx/index.html

Here's mentions of the Blackbird. Several photos in the first link.

http://books.google.com/books?id=wHA...ckbird&f=false

http://motownmotorsports.com/history.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Woodward-Avenu...ews/193249491X

Dr. Eric M. Schiffer 12-19-2010 07:02 PM

Ok...So you want to know all about Jim Wangers' 1968 Firebird Ram Air I AKA the Blackbird which I own. First let me state that in Detroit during the height of the street racing there where many very fast cars. Some got press others did not. Most these guys had direct factory connections to engineering parts.

The difference of Addison's GTX and every one else is that every one else kept their mouth shut. If Ford, GM, Chrysler, AMC top brass or even the news papers got wind of this things would hit the fan. In fact it did hit the Detroit papers when some reporter came around the Howard Johnson's on Northwestern Hwy for our "High End" gatherings one Thursday night in 1968. The head lines talked about the Illegal Street Racing being supported by the factories.

On any given night there was a new "FASTEST" car. Everyone was always improved the cars. The "big races" were never on Woodward. They could be on I-96, I-75, M-59 or some industral park off Telegraph Rd and Plymouth Rds.

The late Jimmy Addson's car, '67 GTX AKA the Silver Bullet, is getting alot of press now a days because his current owner Harold Sullivan is very influential in the Mopar world with his nice Mopar collection. It has been Harold who has been pumping this "King Of Woodward" and never been beat story. This was such puffery! Prompted by Harold Sullivan. Harold even commission a poster called "Woodward Kights" under the title in small print it says, "The Silver Bullet "King of Woodward" Leads the Charge. It is a very nice poster that shows Woodward ave north bound in front of the Sunoco station that Addison worked out of with Addison's silver GTX, Jim Wangers' Black Bird, Speadhar's 440 6- pack Super Bee and a '67 BB Vette. Great print.

As the saying goes " A LIE WILL MAKE IT AROUND THE WORLD BEFORE THE TRUTH CAN GET IT'S BOOTS ON".

Jimmy Addison did an interview in the May 1989 "High Performance MOPAR" magazine, article titled "The Legend of the Silver Bullet" page 26 and 27. On page 27 Addison admits lossing to Mike McGauri on different occasions. "Perhaps Addison's stiffest compettion came from the Chevy racing group headed by Wally Booth abd Dick Arons'. A guy by the name of Mike McGauri ran a Camaro with a 460-inch big block Chevy. He beat me, and I beat him," recalls Addison. That was the only car to ever beat the Bullet."

Mike McGauri's '69 Camaro was featured in a short in November 1971 "Popular Hot Rodding" page 50. You'll note the L88 style hood with a Grumpy Jenkin's style pro-stock hood scoop to accomadate the Tunnel Ram. You will also note the front tow hooks that most of the guys had to flat tow to the race. The car was an original white COPO car with Rally Sport head lights that Steve Mair eventually bought from Mike and restored it to original and sold it. (possibly to Reggie Jackson)

Racing out of Booth and Arons' was their top engine builder Dwayne Head. Dwayne's Chevelle was just as fast as Mike's '69 Camaro. Dwayne was known as the "Hill Billy". The Chevelle fell to the Blackbird in those early years.
You had Andy Manerino and his "Wap's Rat" Camaro. Andy beat the Black bird than Fankie beat him on a later date with the Blackbird.

There where some Ford Engineers that beat Addison with a well prepaired Mustang.
A straight axle 'Vette with an Ohio plate lined up as a blocker next to Keith Wilson, who Detroit Area Pontiac guy's know, behind Addison as he was going to run another car. When Addison and the other guy took off there was enough of a hole for the Vette to fit through. The Vette drove on by Addison. After the race Addison said I wasn't racing the Vette, he never beat me. This was typical Addison. He would race anything he thought may be faster....or he'd hit the brakes if the other car began reelling him in and was going to pass him. On the other hand it was no unusual for Addison to keep on cranking after the finish line as the other guy coasted after winning. Basiclly, Addison extended the finish line, or shortened it to fit his needs.

Addison wouldn't race very fast '56 and '57 Corvettes coming out of Midwest Auto Supply owner Ron Reader had a George Delorean built Pontiac under the hood. Later a Big block Chevy built by his neighbor Booth and Arons. Than you had the Mike Fons plum '57 Corvette later bought by Steve Maynard with a 440 CID Big Block Chevy. This Vette was featured in the September 1971 "Car Craft" magizine page 39. The same issue that featured Addison's car on page 40. The magazine even mentioned that this Vette could eat up Addison's GTX.

Addison's "Bullet was beaten twice on Woodward just North of 9 Mile Rd by the Ben Harrison Jr, son of Ben Harrison, Pontiac Motor's cost manager. Ben Sr. is responsible for bringing you the '69 Grand Prix and for getting the '77 Can Am through GM management

Another car that beat the "Bullett" was a 1970 Chevelle big block owned by Steve Mair who's dad was General Motors VP Alex Mair. Steve's Chevelle was prepared by Chevrolet engineering. Very light weight car. Like most Detroit cars they had been acid dipped, no inner wheel wells etc. It beat the Addison's Bullet by train lengths.

Steve's Chevelle and the Blackbird did line up one night on M-59. The cars would do several burn outs to heat the tires. The race drew too big a crowd that Jim Wangers called it off before the police showed up. Jim felt that would have been the best race of the Black bird if it had taken place.

Rick McKinney who's dad was a tire one supplier to the industry race with the big boys in his gold 1973 LS7 Camaro. Rick ran Mike McGauri in his '69 Tunnel Ram Camaro and stayed neck and neck until over 120 MPH when the Tunnel Ram took over.

Now to Jim Wangers 1968 Firebird RA I column shift automatic was originally ordered by Tony Knieper, the parts Mgr for Stan Long Pontiac as a race car. Tony was a Pontiac racing with factory connections to engineering. Toney was great with suspension set ups. (side note K&L on the sale panel of the original '63 421 SD Stan Antlocher/ Stan Long Tempest stands for Kneiper and Long)The car had RA II heads later. When Tony and his brother Mike got killed while trailing their '67 Firebird from one track to another late one night. The family wanted out of racing.

Jim Wangers' driver, John Ploitzer aka "The Cheater" and the '66 Geeto Mystery Tiger, was good freind with the Knieper family. John made the deal the have Jim Wangers buy the '68 black Firebird. Politzer was the subjacet of Brock Yates Car and Driver article in fall of 1967 "Street Racing".

Once Jim Wangers had the car it sat for a while. When PMD cancelled there 1970 455 high compression Ram Air IV engine program Jim talked to Russ Gee about doing a what if that motor was put into the '68 Firebird and lets see what would happen on the Street. Tom Nell designed the cam shaft and went to General Kenetics and ahd it ground. The Heads went to Diamond Elkins along with the Trans Am program heads, Herb Adams, Tom Goad and Nell were doing. Then Carter throw in a Thermo Quad and Edelbrock a PB4 maniford and Doug some headers. An artcle was done on the car in the March 1971 issue of "Popular Hot Rodding" sating on page 30. It shows all the work done by Brain Ballish at Royal Automotive. John Politzer did the driving. By the Time this article hit the stands the car was already running a half second or n more faster. Jim Would not let Et's be published before the cars where at least a half to a full second faster. A second article was written about the car in January 1972 in "Super Stock and Drag Ill". Jim Would only admit to 11 flat at 127 mph. The car was a very low 10 second car by then.
Jim Wangers sold the car to his second driver, of this car, Frankie Ulbrick. It was actullay under Frankie's ownership that the now very tired BlackBird did battle with the "Silver Bullet". Jim Wangers had told Frankie on many occations that the engine need freshing up. However, Frankie leaped out on the Bullet, Frankie hit second and leaped out even further. As they hit highend Frankie saw Addison coming on but hit the finish line first. But in Addison fashion he just kept on cranking and extended the finish line. Rick Dyer, owner of C.A.R.S. inc., the Chevrolet reproduction company, was there and swears Frankie beat Addison. Soon after Frankie did braek the block. Frankie also used N.O.S. later.
The Black bird remained in the hands of a few racers and continued to win alot of races. The car eventually made it back to Frankie Ulbrick's cousin and was freshend up by George DeLorean. The cousin was going through a divorce so they called JIm Wangers. Jim bought the car and it sat for a few years as Jim had other interests and musch faster cars. A Monza low 9's, the '74 Red T/A a '77 Silver T/A a couple of Monte Carlo's and a couple of Grand Nationals.
Jim offered the '68 Bird to me about 15 or more years ago and have freshend it up again. It is more like it was for the first article. A streetable "Legal" car. However not leagal for the Strip....
The Bird is mentioned in: "Milt Schornak and the Royal Bobcat GTOS", "Factory Lightweights" by Charles R. Morris, cover of "Pontiac Enthusiast" ad artilce page 24 Sept/Oct 2006, "Pontiac Enthusiast" May/June 2009 page 72 and in "American Muscle Supercar" by David Newhart.
I hope this is enough info.....
Have a nice Holiday and New Years..
Eric

ANDYA 12-19-2010 07:51 PM

WOW! Now that's what I call a history lesson! That's exactly what I wanted to know and more. Thanks for the great response Dr. Schiffer.

Dr. Eric M. Schiffer 12-19-2010 08:21 PM

Andya,
When Jim Wangers owned the Jim Wangers Chevrolet dealership in Wisconsin he had a customer that said Pontiacs can't run. Jim made the call to Frankie Ulbrick to bring the Black Bird to Wisconsin to take on a hot Chevelle there. The race was set up and Frankie brought the car. The Black Bird did it's usual "leap" out in front and won by alot. The other side protested and said Frankie left too soon. Since it was a very hostile crowd Wangers told Frankie not to beat him so bad this time. They ran again and Frankie did win and they got out of there in a hurry.. The Black Bird does have two windows, rear and passenger side quarter, that are scracthed up from the crowd as they throw glass bottles at the car. I left them there as a part of street racing history....

Dr. Eric M. Schiffer 12-19-2010 08:37 PM

Andya,
When you went to the Woodward Dream Cruise did you go as far as Birmingham? Woodward 15 Mile Rd. The Royal Pontiac Club of America was on the east side of Woodward between Lincoln (14 1/2 Mile) and Malpe Rd (15 Mile) with 55 cars.
In 2008 Tenney Fairchild and Scott Tieman parked the '64 Car and Driver red GTO with my '68 Jim Wangers Black Bird, Jim Gannes '67 GTO triple black 428 Bobcat convertible, featured in the "Pontiac's Great One GTO" by Darwin Holmstrom and David Newhardt, pages 147-149.
In 2009 Jim Wangers was parked with us. He and Dave Anderson had the Geeto Tiger parked next to my (Jim's) '68 Firebird (Blackbird) flacked by the Wangers' '69 Judge that I took care of for 17 Years and my '68 GTO Royal Bobcat convertible, (Featured in "Pontiac's Great One GTO" by Darwin Holstrum and David Newhardt), pages 167-170.
Tom Goad was there with us too.
This year 2010 the black bird was once agan displayed with my '68 GTO Convertible and Herb Adams was with us.

The Boss 12-19-2010 08:44 PM

Great story Doc. Thanks for keeping it alive!

Dr. Eric M. Schiffer 12-19-2010 08:48 PM

In the Info About Addison what I ment to say and could not correct was that Addison would NOT race anything that he thought might be faster than him. Addison was a guy that was short in stature and an even short temper to match.....

ANDYA 12-19-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eric M. Schiffer (Post 4184826)
Andya,
When you went to the Woodward Dream Cruise did you go as far as Birmingham? Woodward 15 Mile Rd. The Royal Pontiac Club of America was on the east side of Woodward between Lincoln (14 1/2 Mile) and Malpe Rd (15 Mile) with 55 cars.
In 2008 Tenney Fairchild and Scott Tieman parked the '64 Car and Driver red GTO with my '68 Jim Wangers Black Bird, Jim Gannes '67 GTO triple black 428 Bobcat convertible, featured in the "Pontiac's Great One GTO" by Darwin Holmstrom and David Newhardt, pages 147-149.
In 2009 Jim Wangers was parked with us. He and Dave Anderson had the Geeto Tiger parked next to my (Jim's) '68 Firebird (Blackbird) flacked by the Wangers' '69 Judge that I took care of for 17 Years and my '68 GTO Royal Bobcat convertible, (Featured in "Pontiac's Great One GTO" by Darwin Holstrum and David Newhardt), pages 167-170.
Tom Goad was there with us too.
This year 2010 the black bird was once agan displayed with my '68 GTO Convertible and Herb Adams was with us.

The last time I was there was in 2007. My friend and I drove up as spectators and we spent 3 days . I actually saw your car parked about where you described on a grass divider if I remember correctly. Jim Wangers was also there sitting at a table sighning autographs. I'm working on finishing a 69 Firebird right now. Hopefully I will be able to bring it up and cruise Woodward when it's done.

Keith Seymore 12-19-2010 09:51 PM

Thanks for posting, Eric -

K

indymanjoe 12-19-2010 10:12 PM

i work with the originall builders son in law,my buddys wife is the daughter.she is very cool and has a lot of storys of goin racing with dad back in the dAY.they do admit to a pontiac and a close race.ive worked with this guy for 5yrs and just this summer found out some old history.he has a crapmaro,and i a pontiac so....lol

Dr. Eric M. Schiffer 12-19-2010 10:24 PM

Indyman,
Who are you refering to as the original builders? Brian Ballish and John Politzer? or The late Kneiper brothers?
Eric


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