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TacoTownCharlie 09-02-2019 08:55 PM

Water Pump Removed, How To Remove Coolant Tubes
 
I have a 78 Y88 Trans Am with a Pontiac 400. I wanted to do some work with the water pump. I also wanted to replace to two coolant tubes, I was able to pull the left one out but the right one won’t budge. I’ve tried to use a pair of pliers to pull, a was able to get a screwdriver behind the lip and I tried to twist. I also tried a pry bar after brushing some CLR (Calcium Lime and Rust remover).

Is there a tool or better technique I could use?

Thanks for any help.
TH


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gilg 09-02-2019 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TacoTownCharlie (Post 6058047)
I have a 78 Y88 Trans Am with a Pontiac 400. I wanted to do some work with the water pump. I also wanted to replace to two coolant tubes, I was able to pull the left one out but the right one won’t budge. I’ve tried to use a pair of pliers to pull, a was able to get a screwdriver behind the lip and I tried to twist. I also tried a pry bar after brushing some CLR (Calcium Lime and Rust remover).

Is there a tool or better technique I could use?

Thanks for any help.
TH


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Hi the best way is to remove the timming chain cover but be carefull even many times people try to remove the sleeve tubes and broken the timing cover

the best way is dont removed the sleeve
cleaned well the area and replace both sleeve seals
but the only way to get the seals you need to buy the
Felpro TCS 13383-3 GASKET SET TIMMING COVER
you can use the Sleeve Seals and the gasket for water pump.

to the sleeve you already removed put some grease before inserted again and also the two large bolt from the water pump put grease before installed back.

hope this helps

TacoTownCharlie 09-02-2019 10:17 PM

Thanks. Pulling the timing cover, for me, is method of last resort. Pulling the water pump off was a real stretch of my automotive skills. I’ll keep trying on the tube and do some research on the timing cover removal and replacement.

Again, thanks for your reply.
TH


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HWYSTR455 09-04-2019 08:35 AM

WD-40 and over time may help too.

If you do get it out, and the cover is still good, coat the sleeve with anti-seize before you install them. Also coat the 2 studs that go into the block and thru the cover, those too get locked up. This is usually caused by gaskets leaking into that cavity.

(credit goes to gilg, his comments are accurate)

If you need a late cover that does not have the timing indicator, I will let a NOS one go inexpensively.

.

TacoTownCharlie 09-04-2019 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HWYSTR455 (Post 6058544)
WD-40 and over time may help too.

If you do get it out, and the cover is still good, coat the sleeve with anti-seize before you install them. Also coat the 2 studs that go into the block and thru the cover, those too get locked up. This is usually caused by gaskets leaking into that cavity.

(credit goes to gilg, his comments are accurate)

If you need a late cover that does not have the timing indicator, I will let a NOS one go inexpensively.

.

Thanks, That's really helpful. After half a can of PB Blaster and some twisting with the pliers I was able to finally remove it using a sawzall type tool. Now I can clean up and be ready when my new water cooler ships next Monday.

I really wouldn't have attempted this without the knowledge I've pick up here. I'm still nervous, but if I can get everything back together without major leaks I have the confidence to tackle other jobs.

I want to give a shout out to Scott Thelander for reaching out to me and giving me ideas and more importantly, encouragement to keep at it!


[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...bdf6303c_z.jpgIMG_0253[1] by Anthony Horn, on Flickr[/IMG]


[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...2e0b54d8_n.jpgIMG_0254[1] by Anthony Horn, on Flickr[/IMG]

[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...b8678787_n.jpgIMG_0257[1] by Anthony Horn, on Flickr[/IMG]

gilg 09-05-2019 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HWYSTR455 (Post 6058544)
WD-40 and over time may help too.

If you do get it out, and the cover is still good, coat the sleeve with anti-seize before you install them. Also coat the 2 studs that go into the block and thru the cover, those too get locked up. This is usually caused by gaskets leaking into that cavity.

(credit goes to gilg, his comments are accurate)

If you need a late cover that does not have the timing indicator, I will let a NOS one go inexpensively.

.

Thanks to HWYSTR455
Also they can use PB Blaster to remove the sleeve but must to be carefully as i quote before some people removed and make cracks in the Timing chain cover and start to leak coolant and even start mix water to the oil pan Thanks.

gilg 09-06-2019 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TacoTownCharlie (Post 6058830)
Thanks, That's really helpful. After half a can of PB Blaster and some twisting with the pliers I was able to finally remove it using a sawzall type tool. Now I can clean up and be ready when my new water cooler ships next Monday.

I really wouldn't have attempted this without the knowledge I've pick up here. I'm still nervous, but if I can get everything back together without major leaks I have the confidence to tackle other jobs.

I want to give a shout out to Scott Thelander for reaching out to me and giving me ideas and more importantly, encouragement to keep at it!


[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...bdf6303c_z.jpgIMG_0253[1] by Anthony Horn, on Flickr[/IMG]


[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...2e0b54d8_n.jpgIMG_0254[1] by Anthony Horn, on Flickr[/IMG]

[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...b8678787_n.jpgIMG_0257[1] by Anthony Horn, on Flickr[/IMG]

Good Job!!!!


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