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Forum: Pontiac - Street 02-11-2024, 12:11 PM
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Posted By Formulajones
So what's the max lift this thing will support? ...

So what's the max lift this thing will support?

That's really the deal breaker for me and why I had to ditch the idea of using the factory roller setup on a Gen V BBC and convert it to link bar,...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 08-21-2023, 06:00 PM
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Posted By Formulajones
That EGR pan would look good hanging on the wall...

That EGR pan would look good hanging on the wall next to all the other stuff :D
Forum: Pontiac - Street 08-21-2023, 05:18 PM
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Posted By Formulajones
Any reason why you want to keep an EGR valley...

Any reason why you want to keep an EGR valley pan?

Just thinking out loud but it seems it would be easier and much cheaper to just modify the EGR pan to work with retro lifters rather than...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 08-08-2023, 07:11 AM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
I've been pushing the 91 pump gas for years here...

I've been pushing the 91 pump gas for years here in Arizona, same junk California has. I'm running an 11:1 engine with iron heads fine on it, it likes 36 degrees of timing where it made best power,...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 04-27-2023, 03:52 PM
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Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
Enough spring pressure to properly control things...

Enough spring pressure to properly control things shouldn't be so far out of whack on a hydraulic roller setup to even worry about roller wear or failure. I think this whole thought process is...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 04-27-2023, 03:37 PM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
My feeling and from my experience, the link bar...

My feeling and from my experience, the link bar setup is still a very reliable setup. The amount of people that have actually had issues are really such a small percentage it's not worth worrying...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 04-27-2023, 01:17 PM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
Won't Most guys here don't even spin their...

Won't

Most guys here don't even spin their Pontiacs above 5500, and many others don't make power much above that. It's the street section. With a proper spring valve train control is not an...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 04-27-2023, 10:09 AM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
Just an FYI for those reading, the weight of a...

Just an FYI for those reading, the weight of a link bar setup shouldn't even be a player in the grand scheme of things so long as the rest of the valvetrain is setup properly (IE: correct spring...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 04-26-2023, 11:13 AM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
Paul C just told me Johnson has another batch of...

Paul C just told me Johnson has another batch of hydraulic rollers in stock for Pontiac. He orders directly from Johnson. However they aren't $700 anymore. He told me the price has jumped to...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 02-02-2022, 08:31 PM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
One thing everyone forgets is those OEM lifters...

One thing everyone forgets is those OEM lifters in OEM applications are also running on OEM springs, which are lucky to have seat pressures of 90-100 lbs, and running on OEM lazy lobe cam profiles. ...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 03-15-2021, 11:46 AM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
LOL

LOL
Forum: Pontiac - Street 03-15-2021, 10:39 AM
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Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
LOL you are exactly right about that Murf...

LOL you are exactly right about that Murf :beerchug:

There is one set here we are holding on to that dad ran in his old engine for about 4 years (that was almost 20 years ago, lol) they were a...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 03-15-2021, 09:53 AM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
Yes the weight of the valve train has a huge...

Yes the weight of the valve train has a huge affect on spring pressures needed to control it.

On the beehive's, today there are many more options that work. Back when I was playing with them on...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 02-28-2021, 10:01 PM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
They operate with less spring pressure than a...

They operate with less spring pressure than a "street" Pontiac in stock form!!

For starters, The very low mile LS engines I've done camshaft swaps in have stock beehive springs in them that were...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 02-28-2021, 03:37 PM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
Shucks I use the link bar retro fit stuff in...

Shucks I use the link bar retro fit stuff in street cars all the time, have been for going on 30 years without a failure. That's all we had decades ago and I haven't found a reason yet to stop using...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 02-28-2021, 02:58 PM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
If you don't like the Johnsons or don't want to...

If you don't like the Johnsons or don't want to do the lifter bore mod, then why not look at a set of the Comp S lifters? The oil bands are in the correct location and come recommended by Paul K. ...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 02-28-2021, 02:56 PM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
Might want to contact Paul, I don't think that...

Might want to contact Paul, I don't think that was the case in the failures he was seeing.

Link bars aren't a deal breaker for me.
Forum: Pontiac - Street 02-28-2021, 10:25 AM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
Yes and just to be clear, Paul prefers the...

Yes and just to be clear, Paul prefers the encased roller, which is how the Johnson roller lifters come. Paul has used the unshrouded rollers, which is how the Comp S lifters for Pontiac come, and...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 08-13-2020, 09:57 AM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
You'll find many cam designers against the hybrid...

You'll find many cam designers against the hybrid idea. Harold Brookshire is another one that was against the hybrid idea. He mentioned just as Tom touched on, lash ramp design is completely...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 02-08-2020, 10:54 AM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
Hmm, all the rollers we run are over .600 at the...

Hmm, all the rollers we run are over .600 at the valve or around .380+ lobe lift so that likely won't work.
Forum: Pontiac - Street 02-04-2020, 03:31 PM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
Yep

Yep
Forum: Pontiac - Street 02-04-2020, 03:30 PM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
The difference is that now you're talking about...

The difference is that now you're talking about stripping a block, pulling the engine, and getting machine work done for anyone that wants to swap over to a roller cam that can normally be done in an...
Forum: Pontiac - Street 02-04-2020, 10:35 AM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
I posted earlier I've bought brand new dog bones,...

I posted earlier I've bought brand new dog bones, spider, and roller lifters from Ford Racing for just $175. So that price seems a bit high, even if it were new.
Forum: Pontiac - Street 02-04-2020, 10:33 AM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
That's where I'm going to start to lose interest....

That's where I'm going to start to lose interest. As more things have to be modified the costs start to go up and the difference between this and a retrofit lifter starts to come closer together.
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Forum: Pontiac - Street 02-03-2020, 12:39 PM
Replies: 398
Views: 70,412
Posted By Formulajones
Yes these lifters are a little lighter so they...

Yes these lifters are a little lighter so they are easier to control with spring pressures, so that is another advantage with this factory dog bone setup.

I also prefer to set up the springs...
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