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Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-06-2024, 01:59 AM
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Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
40-50k agreed value on an insurance policy sounds...

40-50k agreed value on an insurance policy sounds like pretty realistic coverage.
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-06-2024, 01:50 AM
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Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
I think the worst part is that for the past year...

I think the worst part is that for the past year , dear old Bob White has mislead the owner of this Formula into misbelieving a family heirloom is worth 180-200k.
And then we innocently bring the...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-05-2024, 05:24 PM
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Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
Another reference is Y-Code = L75 X-Code =...

Another reference is
Y-Code = L75
X-Code = LS2

Here is an L75 Formula 455 invoice
...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-04-2024, 10:28 AM
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Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
I think we have stumbled on the reason why the...

I think we have stumbled on the reason why the appraiser proposed/declared it to be a SuperDuty.
He probably used the Hagerty value guide , and didn't apply research/logic.

Probably handed...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-03-2024, 10:33 PM
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Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
I pretty much agree with that. If its a factory...

I pretty much agree with that.
If its a factory RamAir equipped car , would value it pretty equal to a Y-Code 455 TA Automatic.

I tried to buy a loaded 73 Formula 455 RA Auto car about 30 years...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-03-2024, 08:54 PM
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Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
Hagerty doesn't even list value for 73 Formula...

Hagerty doesn't even list value for 73 Formula 455, skips from a 400 to SD455

Formula 400 in good condition 17k
Formula SD455 in good condition 116k

Y-Code Trans Am 455 in good condition 29k
...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-03-2024, 12:39 AM
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Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
GangGreen , the way the date codes work is the...

GangGreen , the way the date codes work is the first letter is the month
A - Jan
B - Feb
C - March
D- April
and onwards

Next two numbers are the Day of month

Last number is always the Year
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-03-2024, 12:13 AM
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Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
In this picture it "looks like" partial number...

In this picture it "looks like" partial number .9724.
The 7 is probably a sloppy 1
Wallace lists the 491244
,..............and the 492744

I get to cheat using a tablet and do the pinch-out to...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-02-2024, 11:31 PM
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Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
I can see what looks like ...724 ..on the intake...

I can see what looks like ...724 ..on the intake in one picture.
Probably a 491244
Early early 1973 intake

With G of 72 date

I thought it was a C date , and Green called it an E date.
Not...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-02-2024, 11:10 PM
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Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
Formula 455 Auto = 503 Formula 455 Manual = 227...

Formula 455 Auto = 503
Formula 455 Manual = 227

I have seen numerous Automatics , but think have seen but one documented Manual
Where'd they all go ?

GangGreen is there an EGR valve on the...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-02-2024, 10:22 PM
Replies: 53
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Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
John or Ransom might be able to tell how many...

John or Ransom might be able to tell how many Y-Code 455 Formulas were built.
Maybe even break it down into 455 Automatic with RamAir.
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-02-2024, 10:04 PM
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Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
The retail market value with what I can see - I...

The retail market value with what I can see - I would guess 28-32k
With original engine and interior corrections maybe 40k
Others are welcome to share opinions.

They only made 43 examples of...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-02-2024, 08:31 PM
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Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
I bet your brother really cherished that Formula....

I bet your brother really cherished that Formula.
Sharp car in great condition.
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-02-2024, 08:27 PM
Replies: 53
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Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
John I'm pretty certain that is one of the...

John I'm pretty certain that is one of the "restamp restoration" carbs from PY catalog back in late 80's to early 90's . Notice it has no date code - or pick code .

I bought one back then for a...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-02-2024, 12:30 AM
Replies: 53
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Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
The #96 heads increased the comp ratio to around...

The #96 heads increased the comp ratio to around 9.5 : 1
The stock #4X heads would have been about 8 : 1

The 1973 intake would have had an EGR valve
Probably why he switched to a 72 intake.
...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-02-2024, 12:08 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 4,188
Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
Here are some block ID pics. Pic one is the...

Here are some block ID pics.

Pic one is the date code - at the back near distributor .
Usually can jam a cellphone camera in there with flash on and capture it.
I038 on this example.

Pic two...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-01-2024, 04:14 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 4,188
Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
Here is an Invoice for a Navajo Orange 73 Formula...

Here is an Invoice for a Navajo Orange 73 Formula 400 that was ordered with RamAir and Orange carpet.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=462992&d=1504906243
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-01-2024, 03:51 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 4,188
Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
The invoice from PHS will tell you things like - ...

The invoice from PHS will tell you things like -
If the car was originally built with the RamAir Induction option that is on it now.
That was a fairly rare option.

It was possible to order...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-01-2024, 03:38 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 4,188
Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
The dashpad , metal dash , console would not be...

The dashpad , metal dash , console would not be black with a saddle interior.
They would all be saddle tones.
The carpet should be much darker also.

Just little factoids to bring you up to...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-01-2024, 03:22 PM
Replies: 53
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Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
73 Fbody production didn't start until Sept or...

73 Fbody production didn't start until Sept or Oct of 1972 because of the 72 strike at Norwood..
73 Fbody production ended in July or August of 1973.
So your Formula was nearing the end of the...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-01-2024, 02:52 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 4,188
Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
The EUN on the block is extremely too low to be...

The EUN on the block is extremely too low to be original .
That is a low count EUN from the beginning of whatever production year.

( 003286 is ultra early in a model year , but your car is ultra...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-01-2024, 02:39 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 4,188
Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
71 72 73 year model 455 block - Code YC With...

71 72 73 year model 455 block - Code YC
With the partial 0 character leading the EUN. " ( "
So it might be the original block , but it is not an SD block.
We can help you determine if it is the...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-01-2024, 11:27 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 4,188
Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
If you don't have the special pcv arrangement and...

If you don't have the special pcv arrangement and LS2 intake , probably not going to be an SD , unless its been modified , which can happen.

These further steps will document what you do have no...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-01-2024, 11:08 AM
Replies: 53
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Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
In first picture , notice how the PCV valve is...

In first picture , notice how the PCV valve is routed into the oil filler cap on the driver side valve cover.
= SD only

In second picture , notice the cast characters "LS2" to the right of...
Forum: 70-73 Firebird & TA TECH 09-01-2024, 10:51 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 4,188
Posted By Baron Von Zeppelin
73 Formula 455 GangGreen

We have a new member named GangGreen who owns a 73 Formula that was formerly his brothers car, his brother has passed on and now he has the car.

It is a Y-code VIN car with Automatic.

He has...
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