thanks for the help, its on a 69 bird, ill check all grounds and add one if need be.i think i inhereted an electrical nightmare here. although most things work fine someone has plugged wires into the fuseblock, just stuck them at the ends of the fuses and i dont know what they control. my neutral safety/ backup light switch combo. does'nt work i noticed one side has a plug going to it and the other side does'nt and i cant find a 3 prong plug under there to plug it in. oh boy here we go thanks dave