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Old 09-23-2013, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by West Coast GTO View Post
Boy, here come probably this years stupidest or ignorant question: I thought the M21( Rockcrushers) whined, do the M22's whine noticeably and can I assume that my car does also have a M22( 73 original trans) ?
BTW, ignorance doesn't mean stupid, only lacking information( I put that in there for my own good).
I've never understood why some people cal any Muncie a 'Rock Crusher'...
As mentioned earlier, the one really alluded to by the term 'Rcok Crusher', is only the M22;
Which had the same gears ratios as the M21, but used straight cut gears - which made the whine.

It's absolute music...

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Originally Posted by West Coast GTO View Post
O.K.
Earlier in this post Bentwheelbob makes a reference to the M22 trans whining. I guess my question should have been: does the H/O cars all have M22's rather than M21's or was that an option?
IIRC what I've read correctly, the M22 was developed for the Corvette, and as such, was seldom used in a non-Chevrolet;
Once again, if my memory serves me correctly, the muncie transmissions used in Pontiac's goes like this
1967-1973 wide ratio = M20
1967-1970 close ratio = M21
1971-1972 close ratio = M22
1973 wide ratio = M21*
(iirc there has been some speculation as to actual transmissions used for 1973, and I believe early in the 1974 model year, the only four speed available was the Borg Warner Super T-10)

This thread is great...

The '72 and '73 Formulas both look great!

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