@ OPH, thank you very much for speaking up with such a detailed response.
What do you mean by "STT" - I am guessing this is meant to indicate the (standard) Muncie three speed?
I actually created this thread here because it has appeared as though exponentially more GTO's and Tempest/Lemans were built with the Muncie three speed (offered through to 1974 in the A-body) than the Firebirds built with the three speed (only offered 1970 & 1971).
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Originally Posted by 'ol Pinion head
Very very few '71 Pontiac A-bodys were ordered with 3.90 gearing. Have records on over 1/6 of all '71 & 71 1/2 GT-37's produced, & only 2 400 4spd cars have shown up with 3.90 (opt ratio rear) with the HD 4spd (M22). Have noted invoice copies on three 71 GTO's factory equipped with 3.90 HD STT.
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First I didn't know that 3.90's were actually available in 1971, but only five(!!) cars being recorded as having the option, makes it seem incredibly rare!!
I did not expect that.
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Originally Posted by 'ol Pinion head
No factory 3.90 gears for the new for '71 model 8.5 F-body axle.
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yes, my understanding is that this ratio was never offered outside of the "BOP" 10 bolt rear, never offered for either 1970 or 1971 on the Firebird;
The closest was 3.73 offered both years, on both the 12 bolt (1970) and 10 bolt (1971) "corporate" rear end.
I believe that after 1971, the best ratio you could ever get in a Firebird from the factory was 3.42:1.
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Originally Posted by 'ol Pinion head
Have never ran across evidence of anything lower ratio than a 3.55 STT factory installed behind the LS5 engine in a '71 A-body. The 71 GM service manual was printed way before actual production. It has a listing & for years there have been internet sites showing charts which list a code for a 4.33 HD STT rear in a '71 400 A-body. Didnt happen, was never actually offered.
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Interesting on both parts, thanks for telling me this.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it has seemed to me that 3.73:1 wasn't an incredibly uncommon option for 1971 LS5 Formula's or Trans Am's!?
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Originally Posted by 'ol Pinion head
For '72 models 3.55 was as low a ratio as was offered in A-body's, no factory optional 3.90 HD STT rear.
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This is not a surprise to me;
Actually the surprise is that even 3.55 was offered - does this mean that 1972 Pontiac A-bodies used a 'corporate' 12 bolt, or a 'BOP' 10 bolt rear?
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Originally Posted by 'ol Pinion head
In the magazine roadtests of '70 T/A's there is a roadtest which notes 3.90 ratio rear, whether someone at Pontiac Engr set up a 3.90 ratio 12 bolt R&P in the test car's rear & the car was some kind of factory "Ringer", OR whether the magazine writer was wrong & assumed the tested 70 T/A had a 3.90 ratio rear, is all up in the air.
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I had always assumed the writer made a mistake, and assumed that the 1970 Firebird RAIV standard gear ratio was the same as 1969 - but have understood that the different design rear dictated the ratio change.
I have understood that 3.90:1 was never offered for the 12 bolt rear, and that is only a more recent aftermarket offering.
I will be quick to admit, I am not too up to speed on 1970-1972 GTO/Lemans ect equipment & options.
Again, I only chose to point out this ratio because it was what was used for 1968 RA Firebirds, and was still shown as available for 1970 Pontiac A-bodies with the Muncie three speed (see attached picture in post #1).