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Progression Ignition
This company has a video on YouTube that features their new ignition distributor installed on a first gen firebird. Unique features with this new product. Learn more from their website Progression Ignition.
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Hmm, cooler than I expected! Smart phone interface is very interesting, especially the ability to use your phone as a "kill switch".
Long-term reliability will be interesting to see, though.
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'73 T/A (clone). Low budget stock headed 8.3:1 455, 222/242 116lsa .443/.435 cam. FAST Sportsman EFI, 315rwhp/385rwtq on 87 octane. 13.12 @103.2, 1.91 60'. '67 Firebird [sold], ; 11.27 @ 119.61, 7.167 @ 96.07, with UD 280/280 (108LSA/ 109 ICL)solid cam. [1.537, 7.233 @93.61, 11.46 @ 115.4 w/ old UD 288/296 108 hydraulic cam] Feb '05 HPP, home-ported "16" D-ports, dished pistons (pump gas only), 3.42 gears, 275/60 DR's, 750DP, T2, full exhaust |
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Hopefully the company will make this a quality product. So many things that used to be regarded as such has been dimished recently.
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I just installed one on a buddy's car. The HEI version. The only snag was the power supply must be clean power. We had one supply hooked to it that i think was also running a fuel pump and it did not like it a bit. Bluetooth connections drop out and it missed. Once we ran a clean separate power line direct from the fuse panel it worked like a charm. You can tune it on the fly.
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My opinion is that it is well made. Very simple mechanically since there are no advance mechanisms at all.
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That is really intriguing. I would like to see one installed by an actual member. If its a quality distributor its a lot of bang for the buck. Eliminate a programable box, something with a rev limiter, and from wiring up a dead man switch.
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Yes, that is a really interesting version of an MSD E Core, isn't it.
And, for the price, it should also teach itself what each individual engine wants for a curve. When it deficates itself, it should also know how to wipe itself clean, too. Frankly, not a lot of persons are going to be able to tune one of these things, even the so-claimed by them inferior E Core isn't that easy to work with. When these people get this thing to learn all by itself, and can deliver it for less than $200.00, I'll be both more impressed, and more interested than I ever will be at this juncture. Nice idea, nice looking, but, lots to be done to make it a lot more user friendly, it appears .Lets see a lot of you buy into this, and give us the real world reports on just how easy it is to work with, problems, issues, and the rest of us can go from there with them. |
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I don't know about the ignition but I want to know more about his dual gate shifter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t70QpCBjDwU OK the ignition is pretty cool to. Last edited by rohrt; 10-11-2019 at 12:59 PM. |
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I watched some of the video and it looks interesting and pricey. It would be nice to actually have some data and specifics about items like output amperage, voltage, spark duration and so forth. Would people really plop down nearly $600.00 for a distributor and have virtually no information about these things?
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Pretty cool, but would hate for it to have a software meltdown at 2am on a lonely country road.
I'm a bit confused about idle RPM being controlled with the timing ... shouldn't timing be set properly then idle adjusted at the carb? |
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I'm a bit confused about idle RPM being controlled with the timing ... shouldn't timing be set properly then idle adjusted at the carb?[/QUOTE]
I have a programmable crank sensor ignition. You can effectively make the idle more stable by advancing the timing as rpm drop lower which counters the load of ac or being put in gear. It will settle into a happy spot. When you unload engine in park or ac kicks off rpm won't run away because timing is taken away as rpm increase. This is all within a 200 rpm window. This it the opposite of what manifold vacuum and vacuum advance can deliver. |
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I think they are showing how idle timing compensates idle speed for loads at idle. Like being in drive, or maybe the A/C compressor kicking in,. By bumping the timing a bit, then can bring the idle speed back up. Thinking thats the reason the idle RPM's are entered in the app. Kind of a cool idea. I would think you still set the idle and base timing the same way you would otherswise.? this is just my guess of course after watching the video.
Would allow for a lower baseline idle similar to a manual shift car. Pretty much what is mentioned above I would imagine that feature has an RPM cutoff to work correctly? hits 1000 or more and assumes your stepping on the throttle?
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From this link you will get some help
https://progressionignition.com/shop?olsPage=products |
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I'd love to hear a report by someone that has one also.
It would be cool to see more Blue Tooth enable stuff for old cars .... gauges would be great, no wires, software calibration for accuracy. Perhaps a module, not a whole distributor. Blue tooth choke control. Heck, with enough relays you could do away with just about every wire between the dashboard and the engine compartment. |
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I bought one for my 63 Lemans. Got it installed and running today but haven't had the time to play with it. Seems to be very easy to make adjustments.
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Hi Folks,
I just came across this post. For some reason, I hadn't thought of posting about my experience here, posting in the Street section instead. So I'd thought I'd share the link to my review here too. Anyway, long story short, I found myself in need of a new distributor and took the plunge, documenting the experience along the way. Instead of a long post and many pictures, I wrote it up as a PDF document. It's available from my family web site. Here's the link: Progression Ignition PDF I hope people find it helpful. Stay Safe.
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