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1970 Formula
Anyone know anything about this Formula? It's right down the road from me.
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/a...029159480.html
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Wow
Wow again Looks like a real honest car with no excuses . And VERY Well Kept for a Northern Car. Invoice has both a Credit Memo and a Debit Memo, that's a wild scenario. A little surprised at first by all the Promo Lingo written on the Invoice. Evidently Pontiac was also involved with that contest, since it was in Detroit area. A new car is a helluva prize for just a radio station contest alone. The handwriting matches the Memo's , and the Memo's match other examples of same type CMD's from various other invoices. Bonafide |
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Never seen or heard of it before....
Agreed looks to be a very correct and original car. Still has the open face alternator, even. I'm a fan of Motor Wheel Spyders..., but they look a little lame with the centers painted blue. And those look like 14 x 6's ... a bit on the small/skinny side. I wonder if they've been on the car since its days as a contest prize? There's no wheel option on the PHS, so it would have had caps off the line. A few nits: There appears to be a hole in the top of the RH quarter panel...? (a CB antenna there, once, maybe?) Tailpipes are wrong (as are the mufflers under the rear seat... whole exhaust system basically -- but it probably sounds good) Interior door release handles are missing the black trim, and the drivers armrest vinyl is starting to delaminate It's been enthusiastically Ziebarted (all the yellow plugs along the rocker), which may be why there's none of the original red oxide e-coat visible on the bottom, either Front of console once had something drilled/mounted into it Orange air cleaner...? Asking price seems very reasonable if everything works and it drives fine.
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keith k 70 Trans Am RA III / T400 / Lucerne Blue / Bright Blue 70 Trans Am RA III / M20 / Lucerne Blue / Sandalwood 70 Formula RA III / M21 / Lucerne Blue / Bright Blue Last edited by keith k; 11-30-2019 at 11:27 PM. |
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oh my!!!!
me likey, me likely a lot.
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Very nice. If your going to re paint it, why didn’t they plug the hole!
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It sold right away on Saturday.
Not only was the air cleaner orange, but it looked like the flappers appeared to be MIA (may have been a repop). You also missed the missing lighter.
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I noticed all the stuff you guys mentioned except for the hole in the quarter panel.
that was very unexpected - abnormal Was also missing interior door handle latch escutcheons on both sides. A really really great car overall - no doubt. And wasn't majorly overpriced. Best dealer offering/ad/pics/disclosure i have seen in a while too. Hope someone comes up with more of its early history. Was "New Market" the ad agency that came on board after Wangers company ? |
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I'm almost expecting this car to pop up on eBay within the next couple of weeks by Restore A Muscle Car.
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Heard the Formula is in very good hands.
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Headed back to MI, from what I hear. Don't know who's hands got it.
Cool on the promo pics. Didn't even think to look at other states. It would be interesting to see the invoices on the others and how many were giveaways.
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"key market" would probably be a marketing term and not related to a name. Probably saw a lull in the sales of the new Firebird.
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that's great this it sold so quick!
it's kinda funny to me; thst the car has so many options, yet no gauges!?
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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I have seen a lot of Formulas with no gauges.
(mine has no gauges also) Always wondered if people thought that the gauges were included? About like the console on automatics.
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I would have liked to have it in my “good “ hands.
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Great price and cool car too.
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The Detroit radio promo probably originated with the format from Boss Radio in Los Angeles which had relationships with other RKO radio stations across the country, possibly including Detroit. Car had a bunch of coins put in the trunk and you had to guess the weight. I have a friend who is a whiz at combing old Newspapers online - he found these ads:
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Only too bad they had to jump up on the hood. ARRRRGGG! |
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It looks like this Formula was shipped out April 24 ... best i can tell. That falls in line with some other VIN's close to that VIN also. The promo picture car has wheel opening moldings and R2 wheels with trim rings. fwiw Last edited by Baron Von Zeppelin; 12-02-2019 at 06:16 PM. |
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Very cool Formula! Weird that it has no gauges & tach...but a lot of the good stuff!
Dennis |
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OK, full disclosure, the Formula is home with Dan & I, and also in a state of discovery, inspection, and repair. It was delivered late last Saturday night and we’ve been looking it over very closely. I am happy to say that this car is not disappointing us at all and is in amazing survivor state. We were worried about not inspecting the car in person, but, we had to jump on the deal quick to secure the car…and then hope for the best. Fortunately, this Formula seems to have experienced minimal winter driving and was taken off the road in 1978 while in Michigan, where all the 47,000 (+) miles were driven…so, only 5900 miles a year, making us suspect that they were mostly fair weather miles. We have no complaints.
Like the dealer ad said, it is all numbers matching and still has the original hoses, belts, coil, radiator, lines (fuel line cut at the top), fuel pump, etc….it is a time capsule. As you can see, we did tear the front cover off wanting to see if the original nylon toothed aluminum timing gear set was still there (yes it was!!!) and still attached to the original ‘S’ 068) cam (another yes!!!). The engine has never been ap[art or rebuilt and the RA exhaust manifolds have their bolt locks still. I’ll gather casting dates for a later post, but they are all very close. Another good sign is the engine is spotless inside and under the valve covers. The interior is still very nice and no rips in the seats or headliner. The plastic pieces are all in very noce shape. The console is cracked from the CB radio, or 8-track tape player, they mounted, but I have a nice console to replace it, along with the shifter bezel and escutcheon. The body panels, floor, truck, rear window channel, wheel opening pinch welds, front fenders, hood, trunk drops, etc. are all beautiful. It does have one original CL 14x7 wheel (spare) with a F70-14 Firestone BW Wide Oval tire (lots of miles) in the trunk with the complete jack assembly in great shape. The wheel is painted Lucerne Blue, counter to the factory 70 Firebird wheel color chart of black. It appears to be old original paint and shows indication of having a hub cap installed. The motor wheels appear to have been painted LB in the center a long time ago as they are faded and have marks from use. The tires have no wear on them and are P225R70 14’s Firestone 721 radials from 1978, or so? I can’t decipher the date code, so I’ll post that later to see if someone else can. Dennis |
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