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Points distributor question (400)
Hello,
My dad passed down his F250 truck from 1970 that just happens to have a pontiac 400 in it. He did not put it in there and believes it's out of a 68 firebird. I'm having trouble getting the thing to start. Checked that it's getting plenty of gas from the 4 bbl carb, and I've tested the old coil (seemed to be good), but replaced it for good measure and still can't get the engine to come to life. What I want to do next is try and identify what year/model distributor I have on there so that I can troubleshoot it a little better. Can anyone help identify? Here's pictures of the distributor: |
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There is a number on the side of the distributor just below where the cap sits. Give us the number. The are only 2 types of ignition points from 1957-1974. The first is separate point and condenser and the other is a point and condenser in one piece. They are interchangeable.
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You can probably just make the assumption that it's the original 1968 distributor. You have a uniset points in there currently (no pun intended) and they simply might just be shot from sitting...You can put in a separate points and condenser, but then you'll have to hunt up one of those short screws. for the condenser bracket. |
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Did you try the old spark plug wire screw driver test? If not, simply remove one of the plug wires from the spark plug, stick a screw driver in the plug boot, and hold the metal portion of the screw driver close to, but not touching the block. Have someone crank the engine and see if you get spark from the screw driver to the block. If so, the ignition is working at least on that wire. I would do that test on several other spark plug wires to determine that the wires are not the problem.
Also, when was the last time this was started? |
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It’s been close to a year since it was started. |
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I've done the points replacement on the car back in the day, but the flyweights make it more difficult. The nice thing abut the GM design is that the point gap (dwell) can be adjusted easily with an external allen wrench.
George
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Also make sure you have your plug wires going the right way. Pontiac distributors run counter clockwise
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No need to pull the distributor. Observe that points open and close when cranking. Clean the points with a points file. Observe that points spark when opening while cranking with ignition on; if not, either the condenser or coil primary circuit is at fault.
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Ok thanks for the help guys. Noticed that I could not see the spark, so I pulled the distributor and we tested the condenser(capacitor?) and confirmed it was discharging immediately. I ordered an AC Delco points assembly and will install it this next weekend to see if that does the trick!
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Oh also I cleaned off the filth and can see the p/n is 1111946 8L6 for those curious.
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What's a recommended place online to buy points for this old distributor, while I'm at it?
Thanks! |
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points should be available at ANY automotive parts vendor;
I am not sure about Ford or Dodge points, but all pre-175 GM V8's used the same style points.
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