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#1421
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You keep talking about this $300 set of heads, I think you should go back to him because he is giving his work away. Get back to me when you make that easy 850 HP with standard port Eheads, that has to be a record. Now you are sounding like a CV-1 nut hugger! Btw, how long ago did you run 9.90's, wasn't a few years ago? How much faster are you today? Calvin Hill Hill Performance 708-250-7420 |
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Nobody is forcing anyone to buy any particular head. At least...I haven't seen anyone holding a gun to another person's head. Judge their merits by first hand reports, not someone else's heresay and the buyer will be far better off. if you don't like the product...don't buy it. The heads have shown they have potential. Whether you think its only one example, or you look at the list Bill gave of people who went faster after using the heads and believe the whole list is true. There are people running them out there. Are they always the fastest head on the track? Of course not. There is so much else to a race car beyond the heads. Out of the original small batch a LOT of heads ended up sitting around for various reasons. Mine are brand new and were purchased by Tom years ago. Why? Life interfered. This hobby isnt going to feed your family or take care of someone sick. There are a few diehard racers that race all the time. The rest of us have other things going on, and cars get put on the back burner. I personally think these heads have a lot of potential. Is it my goal to have a car faster than every other out there? No. Even if I had that kind of money it wouldn't be my goal. I also know I won't turn down a deal on another good set of E-heads if they come along. |
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Is it just me or have somebody mentioned yellow bullet trash or be trashed in every single post they've made?
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Please make this stop! I can't stand reading this anymore. But I can't stop . AAGGHH!
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Not every one, but a number of them. Reason? Because that seems to be the mentality of some over here too. And its been rampant for too long. It doesn't belong here. If you like it there is plenty of band width over there.
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And this is nothing like TOBT. It's like comparing a yappy French Poodle to a Pit Bull. |
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Lil jack and Fulton race
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I don't know of anyone personally who has gone faster with CV heads than they were before... TTBill is the guy you should ask on that because he is the one who is always typing that in. The few I have seen use them didn't go any faster if they even went as fast. Last guy I knew of was a roots blown deal in Tulsa by a guy named Bill who quit his CV program, sold his car and bought a Harley... I lined up with him in his firebird and ran off and left him Motor to blower... Out here in the woods $300 will get you a lot more As far as the 850 I am sure with an IA block and good rotating assembly and cam that 850 is highly doable with E-heads so I guess the gauntlet has been thrown out on that deal... I know 719 HP at 314 cfm with a really mild build (definitely not a maxed out deal) shows the potential for a lot better is there... I haven't been on a drag strip since 2012 but many summer nights you can find me on the street...usually between 12:00 AM and 3:00 AM mid week... My street car with 8.5:1 compression definitely has more than my track car had but it also has a power adder... Best my old car ran in the fall of the year was a 9.72 and in 90+ temps 3000+ foot stuff went 9.90's...
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1969 GTO, 3370 lbs, 10.5” tire... 07/31/21 Norwalk 9.42 @ 142 1/4, 5.95 @ 115 1/8th mile 3400 lbs...535 with Junk dinosaur Eheads Last edited by 69Goat1; 09-23-2016 at 03:54 PM. |
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Oh I agree on all of the above Dan. Just saying this is another version of the same idea. And we really don't need to be that way. It can just stop if everyone decides to quit the bickering and digs. Its one thing to put out some digs to a buddy in a friendly fashion. This isn't friendly.
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I mentioned early on in this thread that the performance of the heads and combinations should do the talking. They now have a voice and more credibility than ever. Let them talk and if you do need to speak up handle it the way Dick and Robin do. |
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So I will ask you one more time to back up your comments about the guys who switched from CV-1s and went faster with other heads. Calvin Hill Hill Performance 708-250-7420 |
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...well, it may or may not happen. Can't tell you how many times I've seen people with engine combos that should have gone faster but didn't. Usually through mismatched parts or poor tuning. Heck, I've even bought a couple of those cars from very disappointed people. Sometimes you can get a good deal from someone elses lack of knowledge. -------------------------------------------------------- The other thing is it sounds like you don't know ANYONE personally who ran CV-1 heads. Other than racing one guy who you apparently didn't know it places you in the same group as the rest of us. In other words watching and listening here. Because I'll be honest...I think if Dick Fulton's car were set up for a big blower it would be even nastier than it is Last edited by TimeWarp; 09-23-2016 at 04:17 PM. |
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69Goat1 I need to find your machine shop guy. $300 for ports that make that kind of power makes me pissed. I live out in the woods and my head guy down in the sticks of NC hit me for 500 to port my 6X-8 heads to 260/220. Sounds like I need to come out to OK and visit some friends I have there. I was all happy about my iron heads and you had to come along and ruin it for me. Nice looking car BTW, that thing looks evil.
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My fear with $300 porting is that you sometimes get what you pay for. lol I'd rather stick with someone like Dave at SD Perf or Bill. lol Hard to beat a CNC job that has proven itself before.
$300 could leave you with rather large paper weights. |
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Or with 9.70's at 3400 lbs at 462 ci...
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1969 GTO, 3370 lbs, 10.5” tire... 07/31/21 Norwalk 9.42 @ 142 1/4, 5.95 @ 115 1/8th mile 3400 lbs...535 with Junk dinosaur Eheads |
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Weight and CI of Mikes car would be appreciated as well...
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1969 GTO, 3370 lbs, 10.5” tire... 07/31/21 Norwalk 9.42 @ 142 1/4, 5.95 @ 115 1/8th mile 3400 lbs...535 with Junk dinosaur Eheads |
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The guy is not a machine shop guy. He is a disabled guy in a wheelchair that grinds on heads in his single car garage at his house. He mostly does stuff for himself only but occasionally he will grind a set of heads for a roundy round car... My Pontiac heads were the first he ever touched...
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1969 GTO, 3370 lbs, 10.5” tire... 07/31/21 Norwalk 9.42 @ 142 1/4, 5.95 @ 115 1/8th mile 3400 lbs...535 with Junk dinosaur Eheads |
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I have watched this for a while now and to say the least its sad man sad.The ones that are most vocal about this head being a dud are the same ones coming up short on the track.Out of all the people that purchased these heads from Jim how many of yall can say you had a bad experience with him?He is one of the most helpful people you can meet.Built me a pair of heads and met me on a Saturday to pick them up not knowing if I was serious or not.How can anyone have a dislike for this dude other than because he want dance to your music.I can't fathom why this guy is getting such a bad wrap.Maybe he wouldn't give free parts who knows.Bill has been a big help on explaining about not just Pontiac but other heads from different makes.Why continue with the constant trove of bs when clearly none of you guys that are going on and on intend on buying these heads.Let the ones who purchased them (like myself) have a shot at making some power without all the opinionated bs.If Robin Roberts came to Norwalk from the desert and couldn't get a race then this whole argument of which is better is dead cause NOBODY has proven them wrong yet.Dick Fulton was at Norwalk this year and still no attempt to discredit the claims of Jim or Bill.I wonder why?From where I sit the cv1 is on top and if you think otherwise step up and get beside one of them at the track so everybody can see who has a better car at the track not the dyno room.If you make 1100-1200 on the dyno but get to the track and cant beat most sbc's then you might want to look at yourself not Roland Racing or Bill Anderson.Jim you and Bill keep doing what you are doing and the truth will come out it already has begun to.
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Same with me Brad. I have had nothing but good dealings with Jim. Lot's of good conversations with Bill too. I love my CV's. Absolutely nothing bad to report after almost 6 years of street driving and at least a couple trips down the track. If I were to sell my car, my next build would certainly have them on it again.
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Mike McCarty You can drop the line, but you'll never kill the spirit! Pump gas 535 w/Marcella cv/1's. 11.0 compression, 4000 stall, 3.73 gears, 275 radial, to the axle exhaust, 3470# w/driver. 9.49 @ 140..........so far |
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... BAMMMM !!!!!! |
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