[Gordon Church]

Just found this car at a local show and the owner asked if I would help him sell it. I'll list in the for sale section shortly. Its numbers a matching Oshawa built RAIII automatic car. Thanks

[muscle_collector]

to get a bang for his buck he needs to put the pink stripes on it. that color is beautiful with the stripes and decals. especially that color interior.
post the phs of it.

[Gordon Church]

He’s got the stripes.......not going to put them on ! I know it’s the first thing I mentioned..

[Gordon Church]

Canadian PHS on its way

['ol Pinion head]

Non AC car?

OSHAWA plant seemed to have done some odd things. Would be interested what the car has as an original rear end. 3.55 coded Pontiac 8.2 ten bolt or a 3.55 coded McKinnon 12 bolt?

[Gordon Church]

non air car and 8.2 3.55 10 bolt posi

[Pepper Judge]

Originally Posted by 'ol Pinion head

Non AC car?

OSHAWA plant seemed to have done some odd things. Would be interested what the car has as an original rear end. 3.55 coded Pontiac 8.2 ten bolt or a 3.55 coded McKinnon 12 bolt?

3.55 limited slip is clearly identified. From the PHS can you tell if it is a 10 or 12 bolt or is this based on the 400 vs 455 and what should have been?

Originally Posted by Gordon Church

Just found this car at a local show and the owner asked if I would help him sell it. I'll list in the for sale section shortly. Its numbers a matching Oshawa built RAIII automatic car. Thanks

With the engine number on the Canadian PHS, it should be easy to confirm a numbers matching block

[Gordon Church]

yup it's a 3 way match ...the block its clear as day and the ProtectOplate and the GM Canada PHS

[Gordon Church]

More Pictures

[muscle_collector]

anyone find it interesting they have those numbers off the block on the Canada cars verifiable and were on the protecto plate. they also have these on the America produced cars but don't give them out. I know, I have the documents on some of mine who were given to me by a guy that worked there many years before it was ever phs dating back to the late 70's.

ps- what a nice xmas present he gave himself or someone.

[north]

Interesting thing about the options... the car has F40, never seen that on a Judge or any car with Y96 for that matter. Y96 was the ride and handling option (firmer shocks and springs) that in 1970 was optional on the GTO and a mandatory option with any optional engine (including all judges of course). The F40 is the heavy duty suspension option which wasn't a handling package but basically the wagon suspension on a non wagon. It made the car sit quite a bit higher and was designed for encyclopedia salesmen types.

Factory literature makes it clear you couldn't have both. Could be a typo from the Canadian documentation service, unlike PHS you are getting a hand transferred document and they can make mistakes. Anyone ever seen a car with both Y96 and F40? (by the way Y96 was included in the price of a 69 Judge but was charged separately on 70-71 Judges).

[north]

Nice colors and classically optioned automatic Judge, with steering, brakes, console, STT, etc.

Would really pop with the stripes, tires and good detailing

[Ram4king]

Originally Posted by north

Interesting thing about the options... the car has F40, never seen that on a Judge or any car with Y96 for that matter. Y96 was the ride and handling option (firmer shocks and springs) that in 1970 was optional on the GTO and a mandatory option with any optional engine (including all judges of course). The F40 is the heavy duty suspension option which wasn't a handling package but basically the wagon suspension on a non wagon. It made the car sit quite a bit higher and was designed for encyclopedia salesmen types.

Factory literature makes it clear you couldn't have both. Could be a typo from the Canadian documentation service, unlike PHS you are getting a hand transferred document and they can make mistakes. Anyone ever seen a car with both Y96 and F40? (by the way Y96 was included in the price of a 69 Judge but was charged separately on 70-71 Judges).

Keep in mind 70 is the first year for the rear sway bar.

[darren]

Gordon
How much is it still for sale
Colour combo is my dream and car was sold not far from where I live

[Gordon Church]

PM sent Darren

[unruhjonny]

Originally Posted by north

Interesting thing about the options... the car has F40, never seen that on a Judge or any car with Y96 for that matter. ...

Please keep in mind that the GM Canada Vintage Vehicle Services paperwork is ENTIRELY different from PHS;
It's one guy who pulls up the vehicle information and will record some (but not necessarily all) of the RPO codes affiliated with that car;
So items which would come standard with a given car package, and not actually options, are shown on this document;

Here is one I recently found on a car similar to mine:



note that the following RPO's would NOT be shown on PHS, as they were standard equipment for the model, and not options:
D35
H02
M13
N30
U05
W66
The latter was actually the model RPO - which would have enacted all the prior items.

So when the Judge package was selected there would have been options added over the 'base' GTO that would have been on the build sheet, but not as options per say, and would therefore have been absent from a PHS document.

Hopefully that makes sense

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

This Judge lives in North Carolina now.
Another PY member negotiated a deal on it after its last auction appearance.
He is very happy with it.

[Mcronk]

The car was at the Pontiacs in Pigeon Forge show this year. Pretty car and nice guy who owns it now. Here are some pics I took.

[Brewster]

Looks great with those strips on her and is an awesome color combo. Congrats to the new owner.

[Gordon Church]

We miss it!!😢