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Old 01-05-2006, 11:02 AM
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hey guys,my brotherin law owns a 71 formula 455ho 4 speed all # match
it is pretty rough but all there,what do you guys think the value of it is being that it needs everypanel.What are they worth restored?
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Old 01-05-2006, 11:36 AM
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Buddy just bought one last year rust free Cal car in need of paint for 12k all numbers match. It was on Classical Pontiac. Parts on that car a worth a ton. Restored I dont think they bring a ton. They will never bring what a t/a does. My guess is 22 to 28k if a nice T/a will go from 30 to 40. Good luck with the car

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Old 01-05-2006, 11:55 AM
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Assessing a value on a HO Formula project car... it would be nice to know what color combination (?) & if any early racing history.

With a really rusty rear body it would prob come down to color combo for me. Quite a few rusty HO Formulas were pirated of parts in the late '70's & up through the 80's. Love to 'em restored, but at what cost?

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Old 01-05-2006, 03:29 PM
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hey guys,my brotherin law owns a 71 formula 455ho 4 speed all # match
it is pretty rough but all there,what do you guys think the value of it is being that it needs everypanel.What are they worth restored?
thanks
mike
The prices I've watched lately put he 455HO/SD Formulas right nose on nose with their T/A comparative's prices... considering the low production numbers I would expect them to stay around the price of 455HO/SD T/A's.

The only thing that's stopping them from being worth more than a T/A with the same drivetrain, is that overall, T/A's are generally more desireable... but even then, I've observed ALOT more interest in the early Formulas lately - and the most valuble ones are the:
-'70 Ram Air III
-'71/72 455HO
-'73/74 SD455
The four speed definatly adds worth over an auto, regaurdless of any differing "auto versus manual" production numbersd from each year...

Honestly, I'd love to have a '71 455HO/mt Formula, but the value of these cars has gone up so much int the past ten years, that I'd probably have to win the lottery to be able to afford one now...

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Old 01-05-2006, 06:40 PM
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Are either of the mentioned cars Castillian with Sienna?

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its a gold on gold car it has the rear console,not sure of all the options will find out.With out seeing the car what would one be worth in poor condition?but as i stated a complete car,everything is there.any idea?were any of the ho formulas ram air?

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all 72 formula 455's had manditory Ram Air and Unitized ignition options. I'm not sure about 71 though.

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Old 01-05-2006, 09:23 PM
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Ram Air optional on '71s.

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For 71 that Ram Air was an option only on the 455HO, not the D-port.

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Old 01-06-2006, 12:55 AM
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Are either of the mentioned cars Castillian with Sienna?
I own a castillian bronze/sienna '71 455 H.O. Formula.

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does anyone know the value? unrestored and restored

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Old 01-06-2006, 11:32 AM
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i think unrestored it probably would be in the range of 10-13,000 the parts are all worth that
restored 30-35,000
i'm actually looking at one right now for myself
does anyone else agree?

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I own a castillian bronze/sienna '71 455 H.O. Formula.
Neat combo! Any pics?

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i think unrestored it probably would be in the range of 10-13,000 the parts are all worth that
restored 30-35,000
i'm actually looking at one right now for myself
does anyone else agree?
sounds about right...
it's really tought to tell because often the local market will take precidence - if early 2nd gen Firebirds don't get top dollar in that region, then it might not be worth that much...

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Neat combo! Any pics?
it is castillian bronze & a 71 , it's dark saddle NOT sienna & NOT 455 H.O. Formula
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Is there that much difference between 71 and 72 other than the limted 72 production? I would think the 71 would be at least as valuable as the 72 as long as it is an HO. Any 455HO (round port) car is worth alot more than 12k imo, unless its missing half the car or is rusted so bad it makes the Titanic look pristine.

My advice would be to restore it, hang on to it. value is going up on the 70's cars. Especially since the 60's stuff with rare engines ie RAIV, LS6, HEMI, is going to the unobtainium level.

And no my 72 still isnt for sale.

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it is castillian bronze & a 71 , it's dark saddle NOT sienna & NOT 455 H.O. Formula
Very nice looking car! I happen to be one of those odd ducks that likes them with vinyl tops, too.

I looked at a bronze/sienna car with tan vinyl top that was for sale in my area last fall.

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10K is all the money if it needs rear frame rails and all the panels and floors and trunk.

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thanks guys,i myself have not seen to many so i was not sure of the value,just don't want to put too much into the car when we restore it
so, 10 to 13 as she sits and in the thirties when done sounds good!

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10K is all the money if it needs rear frame rails and all the panels and floors and trunk.

10k all the money ? 455 ho motor, rockcrusher tranny and shifter , 10 bolt 3:42 POSI , Rear seat console and any other extra's . I'll buy a couple for 10k.Let me know where the are

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