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06-20-2011, 01:26 PM
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Installing windows
My next challenge will be installing the rear quarter windows; the doors are not yet on the body so they will be a while yet.
Is there any advice or clues to how to do this properly and without breaking the window or cutting of my fingers and slitting my wrists (probably in that order)? All fasteners were kept with their specific parts so that won’t be a nightmare, but someone did neglect to take pictures on disassembly! 
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 "Lucy" 1971 GTO (dad's) A true clean one owner. all orig. #'s match, 400, 4 sp, P/S, A/C, Lucy Blue "Buffy" 1969 Firebird vert (mine) Not a clean one owner. Born Carousel Red, 350 2bbl, A/T, P/S, P/B, A/C. Now, Primer gray. Will have a 400, 5 sp, P/S, P/B, A/C, Black with carousel red pin stripes. |
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#2
06-20-2011, 06:22 PM
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It's actually a piece of cake, especially if you took pics before disassembling.
 j/k1. If the fuzzies or the U-channel weatherstriping is there, remove them. Some also take the air vent out of the door jamb so they can get a hand in from front. 2. Get the tracks in the 1/4 panels and more-or-less lined up to accept the glass. 3. Slide the glass in through the U-channel. Do this with the lower plate and rollers installed on the glass itself. 4. Index the rollers into the tracks. 5. Bolt everything together using the marks from the disassembly as a good starting point. 6. Do not bother final adjusting anything glass-wise until all the outer fuzzies, U-channel seals, door weather stripping, etc is installed and the doors close correctly and lined up perfectly.
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#3
06-20-2011, 11:09 PM
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Thanks for the advice Racer, I do appreciate all the help I can get. The week of research I do between steps is paying off, we work on the car on Friday, Saturday and Sundays and at the end of the day Sunday we decide what we will tackle next week. This coming weekend is seat upholstery and rear quarter windows. 2 guys, 6 hours a day, 3 days gives us 36 hours a weekend to get er done. My dad works rreeaallllyy ssllooww though, sometimes I get impatient. He said I would never let the paint dry on my models when I was a kid. He has a large model of the Cutty Sark sailing vessel that he started 35 years ago, it is about 75% completed…I think the paint is dry!
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"Lucy" 1971 GTO (dad's) A true clean one owner. all orig. #'s match, 400, 4 sp, P/S, A/C, Lucy Blue "Buffy" 1969 Firebird vert (mine) Not a clean one owner. Born Carousel Red, 350 2bbl, A/T, P/S, P/B, A/C. Now, Primer gray. Will have a 400, 5 sp, P/S, P/B, A/C, Black with carousel red pin stripes. Last edited by Goat & Chicken Farmer; 06-20-2011 at 11:14 PM. |
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06-21-2011, 12:18 PM
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I agree with PMDRacer's comments and will add this: In order to get the 1/4 glass into the quarter itself required some effort. IIRC, I held the glass properly oriented just above the quarter, then spun it 180 degrees to finesse it in place and spin it around once inside the quarter.
Hope that helps. -Matt
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06-21-2011, 10:51 PM
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Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. -RONALD REAGAN 462 cid/ 6x-4/ TH400/ 3.36:1/ 28x10.5/ 3880#/ 12.35 @ 109.36/ 1.69 60 ft/ 4 wheel disc brakes/ 15 mpg |
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06-22-2011, 08:58 AM
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If you need pictures, I could help out. I'm pretty sure the 71 convert is the same as a 71 HT
Matt
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06-22-2011, 10:46 AM
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"Lucy" 1971 GTO (dad's) A true clean one owner. all orig. #'s match, 400, 4 sp, P/S, A/C, Lucy Blue "Buffy" 1969 Firebird vert (mine) Not a clean one owner. Born Carousel Red, 350 2bbl, A/T, P/S, P/B, A/C. Now, Primer gray. Will have a 400, 5 sp, P/S, P/B, A/C, Black with carousel red pin stripes. |
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06-23-2011, 08:13 PM
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One more thing... If new, take the outer fuzzies and verify that the holes all line up before installing the windows.
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Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. -RONALD REAGAN 462 cid/ 6x-4/ TH400/ 3.36:1/ 28x10.5/ 3880#/ 12.35 @ 109.36/ 1.69 60 ft/ 4 wheel disc brakes/ 15 mpg |
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07-02-2011, 11:55 PM
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subscribing because I have to do this same thing next week and I have all that area gutted and no pictures and its been 9 months since i disassembled it.
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#10
07-03-2011, 12:06 AM
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Once you get it all together and more-or-less in the right place it will be really easy to remove the lower rail and rollers from the tracks, reattach the glass and reinstall. If you use a strip of masking tape on the glass and then mark the tape and the lower rail with a Sharpie you will be able to reattach the rail to the glass in the exact same position. The good thing is that you only have to remove the lower rails on one side. Once you've mastered the one side, the other will be a piece of cake.
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Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. -RONALD REAGAN 462 cid/ 6x-4/ TH400/ 3.36:1/ 28x10.5/ 3880#/ 12.35 @ 109.36/ 1.69 60 ft/ 4 wheel disc brakes/ 15 mpg |
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07-03-2011, 08:23 AM
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Sorry about that guys.
If you bare with me for a few more days, I'll do the "tear-down" and take pics along the way. I have to take it apart anyway to fine tune the fitment of the glass. I plan to do it on Tuesday. Matt
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07-03-2011, 12:52 PM
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No problem. Im just glad someone is willing to help!
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07-03-2011, 08:04 PM
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 Was all ready to install the rear windows after waiting for parts to arrive (10 days) and we get Taiwan parts that don’t fit. Does PY have the same part as Ames or is it better quality? Also, can the rear quarter window trim (stainless piece) be installed with the window installed or is it best to install that first? I figured soapy water would be best to lube the seal before pushing it onto the window. I’ve never done this before. Thanks for any help!
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"Lucy" 1971 GTO (dad's) A true clean one owner. all orig. #'s match, 400, 4 sp, P/S, A/C, Lucy Blue "Buffy" 1969 Firebird vert (mine) Not a clean one owner. Born Carousel Red, 350 2bbl, A/T, P/S, P/B, A/C. Now, Primer gray. Will have a 400, 5 sp, P/S, P/B, A/C, Black with carousel red pin stripes. |
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07-03-2011, 11:38 PM
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I ended up sending them back and getting a set from someone else (I think OPGI) but the holes were wrong. I ended up drilling holes in the car to make it fit. As for the chrome piece on the 1/4 window, that was just short of a NIGHTMARE. I did mine on the car. I would suggest doing it off the car, in your living room, on the carpet. That way you can use the rubber mallet and not worry about the glass.
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Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. -RONALD REAGAN 462 cid/ 6x-4/ TH400/ 3.36:1/ 28x10.5/ 3880#/ 12.35 @ 109.36/ 1.69 60 ft/ 4 wheel disc brakes/ 15 mpg |
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07-03-2011, 11:43 PM
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Oh, and to append my previous post -
I will NEVER purchase anything from PUI ever again. Unfortunately, Legendary wasn't an option when I rebuilt my '71. Wish it had been.
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Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. -RONALD REAGAN 462 cid/ 6x-4/ TH400/ 3.36:1/ 28x10.5/ 3880#/ 12.35 @ 109.36/ 1.69 60 ft/ 4 wheel disc brakes/ 15 mpg |
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07-04-2011, 09:38 AM
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"Lucy" 1971 GTO (dad's) A true clean one owner. all orig. #'s match, 400, 4 sp, P/S, A/C, Lucy Blue "Buffy" 1969 Firebird vert (mine) Not a clean one owner. Born Carousel Red, 350 2bbl, A/T, P/S, P/B, A/C. Now, Primer gray. Will have a 400, 5 sp, P/S, P/B, A/C, Black with carousel red pin stripes. |
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07-06-2011, 07:45 AM
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I'm running into some health problems that has prevented me from getting to the car. I'll do my best to get them done this week.
matt
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07-06-2011, 12:02 PM
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"Lucy" 1971 GTO (dad's) A true clean one owner. all orig. #'s match, 400, 4 sp, P/S, A/C, Lucy Blue "Buffy" 1969 Firebird vert (mine) Not a clean one owner. Born Carousel Red, 350 2bbl, A/T, P/S, P/B, A/C. Now, Primer gray. Will have a 400, 5 sp, P/S, P/B, A/C, Black with carousel red pin stripes. |
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07-06-2011, 01:47 PM
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No i did not. I had promised to take pictures yesterday and post them for everyone. I did not have the strength to get to working on the car to take it apart.
I might be able to get there tomorrow and take the pictures I promised you. matt
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07-06-2011, 03:01 PM
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10-4 Matt, sorry I didnt put 2 and 2 together. Certainly dont strain your health, these Pontiwrecks are easier to work on when you feel good!
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"Lucy" 1971 GTO (dad's) A true clean one owner. all orig. #'s match, 400, 4 sp, P/S, A/C, Lucy Blue "Buffy" 1969 Firebird vert (mine) Not a clean one owner. Born Carousel Red, 350 2bbl, A/T, P/S, P/B, A/C. Now, Primer gray. Will have a 400, 5 sp, P/S, P/B, A/C, Black with carousel red pin stripes. |
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