Pontiac - Street No question too basic here!

          
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-02-2013, 11:53 PM
mkpontiac mkpontiac is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 41
Default Advertised Duration Measured at ?

From what I can find advertised hydraulic flat tappet cam durations are measured at:
Comp 0.006"
Crower 0.006" ?
Crane 0.004"
Pontiac .004" or .006"?
Summit ?
Lunati ?

Are these correct? Does anyone have a cam card that specifies? Please help me fill in the blanks?

Thanks,
Mark

  #2  
Old 01-03-2013, 01:09 AM
Tim Corcoran's Avatar
Tim Corcoran Tim Corcoran is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Willow Spring, North Carolina
Posts: 4,774
Default

Now days it's difficult to know for sure. Some companies the marketing department will just make up the advertised duration number and it won't be based on duration at any lift. It would be nice if there was a standard but there isn't. At least there is a standard for the @.050 numbers.

__________________
Tim Corcoran
  #3  
Old 01-03-2013, 01:36 AM
Old Man Taylor's Avatar
Old Man Taylor Old Man Taylor is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Escondido, CA, USA
Posts: 6,944
Default

There is no standard for "advertised" duration. That's why 0.050" became a standard.

  #4  
Old 01-03-2013, 02:58 AM
Jack Gifford's Avatar
Jack Gifford Jack Gifford is offline
formerly 'Pontiac Jack'
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Phelps, NY 14532
Posts: 10,188
Default

Those numbers- .004", 006", etc.- look like they are for a hydraulic cam. An unofficial "standard" for hydraulic cams is .006".

In earlier days, advertised duration for a solid-lifter cam was at the specified clearance values. But that was back when cam grinders were fussy about providing perfectly-sloped clearance ramps- with a distinct transition to the lobe's flank. Some companies still do the old-school ramps, but many don't bother- in which case, I don't know their definition of seat timing.

__________________
Anybody else on this planet campaign a M/T hemi Pontiac for eleven seasons?
... or has built a record breaking DOHC hemi four cylinder Pontiac?
... or has driven a couple laps of Nuerburgring with Tri-Power Pontiac power?(back in 1967)
  #5  
Old 01-04-2013, 12:39 AM
mkpontiac mkpontiac is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 41
Default

Thank you for the replies. That explains why I am having trouble finding the information for most of them.

I wanted to calculate some dynamic compression ratios and compare pontiac cams to common aftermarket cams and also to "fast ramp" designs all with similiar at 0.050 duration numbers.

  #6  
Old 01-25-2013, 12:18 AM
mkpontiac mkpontiac is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 41
Default

From either contacting the company or finding the information on their website I was able to confirm the following lift points for advertised duration on hydraulic flat tappet cams:

Comp Cams 0.006"
Crane 0.004"
Crower 0.006"
Isky For the 256/262 cam 0.008". Some of their designs are at different lifts.
Lunati 0.006"

So if the actual numbers are consistent with what they indicate, direct comparisons can be made between at least the Comp, Crower and Lunati. You could also estimate the Isky by adding about 10° and the Crane by subtracting about 10°.

Mark

  #7  
Old 01-25-2013, 01:24 AM
Fishin2Deep4U's Avatar
Fishin2Deep4U Fishin2Deep4U is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: The great Northwest! WA
Posts: 606
Default

The isky cam I have is .007" open, .010" closed.

This is 284/ 292 advertised. 236/ 244 @ .050"

Dave

__________________
'68 Bird Vert, 455 , 6x-8, 1.5 HS, HEI, PPR TC-02-HF, TH400, 2500 Hughes, 2.56 8.2 (getting swapped for second gen with shorter gears)

Fishing guide in the Washington state for Salmon, Steelhead and Sturgeon. Fish-On!
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:19 PM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017