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Brake Pedal Return Spring Kit
Does anyone know if this is commercially available?
Spring, pin, clip, and tab. As shown in the photo attached. For a '65 GTO M/T. Brake lights always on. The switch is run down as far as it can go, and it needs to come up another 1/16" to turn off brake lights. I notice I have no return spring. That would likely solve the issue. Thank you.
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1965 Pontiac GTO 455/469 w/ #48 Heads, '65 Tri-Power 9.25:1 CR Stump Puller Cam Muncie M22W 1st-2.56 2nd-1.75 3rd-1.37 4th-1.00 3.55 Rear Differential Front: 225/60R15 Height: 25.6" Rear: 275/60R15 Height: 28" |
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1965 Pontiac GTO 455/469 w/ #48 Heads, '65 Tri-Power 9.25:1 CR Stump Puller Cam Muncie M22W 1st-2.56 2nd-1.75 3rd-1.37 4th-1.00 3.55 Rear Differential Front: 225/60R15 Height: 25.6" Rear: 275/60R15 Height: 28" |
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1965 Pontiac GTO 455/469 w/ #48 Heads, '65 Tri-Power 9.25:1 CR Stump Puller Cam Muncie M22W 1st-2.56 2nd-1.75 3rd-1.37 4th-1.00 3.55 Rear Differential Front: 225/60R15 Height: 25.6" Rear: 275/60R15 Height: 28" |
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Perhaps the spring had been over stretched at some time and has a new relaxed length.
Why not just drill another hole in the tab? Or go to the hardware store and get a spring that looks similar and make your own. |
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There is no spring there. I'm not sure whether '65 even had a spring.
In addition to the spring though, there is a pin, clip, and pivot tab which would help the set up. I do have some holes though. I may try to rig something. Need more time.
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1965 Pontiac GTO 455/469 w/ #48 Heads, '65 Tri-Power 9.25:1 CR Stump Puller Cam Muncie M22W 1st-2.56 2nd-1.75 3rd-1.37 4th-1.00 3.55 Rear Differential Front: 225/60R15 Height: 25.6" Rear: 275/60R15 Height: 28" |
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If your car is a 4 wheel drum manual brake car then, yes it needs that return spring. If you have to have the exact parts for a restoration then that tab will likely need to come from a GM a body (64-66) parts car. That is something you could also make if you are handy with sheet metal. As I recall that part is made from spring steel, not regular steel. The spring, I would get a new one. a 50+ year old spring like that one is not going to be any good.
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Peter Serio Owner, Precision Pontiac |
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I bet you could find an adequate spring if you go shopping in a well stocked hardware store. And yes, you DO need that spring.
And if the space you need to gain on the switch adjustment is so small, you might want to try manipulating the brake switch bracket and/or the tab on the brake pedal that hits the switch a bit in the right direction. But regardless, you need to add the spring.
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The '64 GTO The '65 Chevelle The '69 Chevy Pickup Project The Brazen Orange 2006 GTO |
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I have a set like you need. Send me your address and I will ship it to you.
sgcourter@gmail.com
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Steve 71 Pontiac GT-37 400 4 spd (sold) 71 Formula 400 turbo 400 (sold) 01 Firebird T/A WS6 auto (fun) 64 Tempest Post car LS1/4L60E (Love It!) 65 Lemans Post car LS1/4L60E (More Fun)(sold) 73 Lemans GT 400/auto 1 owner 52k miles 69 El Camino LS1/4L65E (Awesome) 70 Pontiac GTO Convertible 400/400 Original 69 Olds Cutlass S W31 Numbers matching 4Spd 3:91 one of 569 |
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The '64 GTO The '65 Chevelle The '69 Chevy Pickup Project The Brazen Orange 2006 GTO |
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Good link and info for all, Rich. Thanks
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Score! Thank you both. Two options!
Way better than I could have hoped for. I'll add this spring and let you know if it solves the issue.
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1965 Pontiac GTO 455/469 w/ #48 Heads, '65 Tri-Power 9.25:1 CR Stump Puller Cam Muncie M22W 1st-2.56 2nd-1.75 3rd-1.37 4th-1.00 3.55 Rear Differential Front: 225/60R15 Height: 25.6" Rear: 275/60R15 Height: 28" |
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Neither of my '64's have this spring. The pedals return just fine. Should I be concerned?
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BONESTOCK GOATS '64 GTO Tripower Hardtop (Wife's Car) '64 GTO Tripower Post Coupe (My Car) '99 Bonneville SE Sedan |
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I doubt it.
My pedal returns fine, just a hair not enough to activate the brake light switch, and there is a tad bit more travel left that the spring will hopefully take up.
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1965 Pontiac GTO 455/469 w/ #48 Heads, '65 Tri-Power 9.25:1 CR Stump Puller Cam Muncie M22W 1st-2.56 2nd-1.75 3rd-1.37 4th-1.00 3.55 Rear Differential Front: 225/60R15 Height: 25.6" Rear: 275/60R15 Height: 28" |
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Maybe this will help.
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This is my 16yo son at 11pm last night trying to figure out what hole he took the spring out of. Unfortunately my arthritic 51 year old fat ass couldn’t contort enough to get under there to take it apart, and worse put back together. Hopefully this thread will help him find the correct hole to hook it back into.
He’s slowly earning the right to drive her once it’s done. |
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The '64 GTO The '65 Chevelle The '69 Chevy Pickup Project The Brazen Orange 2006 GTO |
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Unfortunately the way I got it parked in the garage I can only open the drivers door about 12”. Hindsight is 20/20 big time for my adventure.
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got mine in after a couple hours of hell. I needed to call someone to come help.
1) I removed the front seat, so I could fit. 2) Removed the brake pedal pin to get additional movement upwards to minimize the spring stretch at install. 3) Borrow my kids head lamp (miner's light) as visibility was bad and I needed both hands. 4) Have a friend lift and hold the pedal up. 5) With needle nose in one hand and other and holding tab, stab it. Throughout the process, I needed a small telescopic magnet, various lights, flat head screw driver, and 3 types of pliers (standard needle nose, long needle nose, and wide tipped). Not for the faint of heart.
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1965 Pontiac GTO 455/469 w/ #48 Heads, '65 Tri-Power 9.25:1 CR Stump Puller Cam Muncie M22W 1st-2.56 2nd-1.75 3rd-1.37 4th-1.00 3.55 Rear Differential Front: 225/60R15 Height: 25.6" Rear: 275/60R15 Height: 28" |
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My son got the factory spring installed, but it was then hitting brake light switch bracket. This I assume is due to relocating the brake rod down to the lower hole due to addition of power booster. So I found another spring that came from throttle return spring pack that I bought. After some modification I made it work. I was frustrated with my son not wanting to help (had some lame excuse about homework) so I forced my fat ass under the dash and made it work.
The tool I found that worked best was an old flat head screwdriver I modified by cutting slot in the tip. This worked like a charm getting the spring to stretch and into the hole. Hence the reason you should never throw away stuff like old screwdrivers ad you never know when you have to take a grinder to one to make a new tool. |
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Good call on notching the old screw driver.
The spring works good for me in pulling the pedal up with no leftover slack. It still didn't depress the brake switch plunger that last 1/2 millimeter, so I put some duck take on the brake pedal where it contacts the switch to shorten the distance. Such is life.
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1965 Pontiac GTO 455/469 w/ #48 Heads, '65 Tri-Power 9.25:1 CR Stump Puller Cam Muncie M22W 1st-2.56 2nd-1.75 3rd-1.37 4th-1.00 3.55 Rear Differential Front: 225/60R15 Height: 25.6" Rear: 275/60R15 Height: 28" |
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