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speedmaster aluminum heads
just see them on ebay, claim to flow 289 @ 600 lift. look like maybee ehead knock offs but also look like nice combustion chambers. anyone check them out yet?
ill stay with sd butler or kre for heads but still interested in how these are. i mean those are better flow numbers than eheads out of the box
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I think there have been at least 2 threads, probably more, about these, on this forum.
Just click on he "Search" function, at the top of the page, & type in "speedmaster heads". http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...07#post6011007 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...68#post6014668 Last edited by ponyakr; 10-16-2019 at 08:30 PM. |
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I'm going to try a set on a 406 street strip engine
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yea ponyakr, theres alot of things on py that dont work on my phone i cant upload pics, pm rarely works right the first time. i can bareley stay logged in from page to page so it was better for me to ask
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im kinda interested to hear how they work for ya chiefbig
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I refuse to buy a product made in China when there is an American made alternative. Add to the fact that it is almost an exact copy of the Edelbrock head which is designed, engineered and built in the United States. Vic Jr spent a pile of money to bring us Pontiac guys a pretty darn good cylinder head, and for us to buy a cheap knock off of his effort is a slap in his face.
You will see a similar response from me in each of the Speedmaster threads because it is a subject important enough to me to do so. Let your conscience be your guide. -Abone.
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It has been said years ago Vic, jr tried to produce in Mexico. The quality was damn near impossible to control, so he built the state of the art foundry in the U.S.
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Not saying buy it but it is a quality product based on tensile test and spectrometer.... |
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Allot of people running eagle rods and cranks. To each their own. I have 4 sets of e heads so I have made an investment in their product. When your looking to save some money on a build and as Scott stated they are as advertised it's good enough for me. Just my opinion
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The reason I have never bought a set of Edelbrock heads is because they are too damned high priced. AMC and olds heads are significantly cheaper from Edelbrock than Pontiac heads are. I'm just not convinced Pontiac heads should be the most expensive street type aluminum head that Edelbrock makes. I'm fairly certain that olds and AMC combined don't sell a larger quantity of heads than Pontiac heads do. All 3 are orphaned engines so there is no advantages to the lower priced offerings.
All my projects have iron round port, and D port heads because of the expense of buying aluminum Edelbrock heads. Edelbrock also jumped on the D port bandwagon after Kauffman went out on a limb, and brought aluminum D ports to market. If you want to talk about someone else copying the guys that made the first aluminum D port heads look at Edelbrock, they aren't that much different than Kaufman D ports are. If Larry Wenzler hadn't started the ball rolling would Edelbrock ever have made a Pontiac head? I've heard that Arnie and other people high on the Pontiac totem pole begged Vic Edelbrock for years before he finally gave in and started production for Pontiacs, and was still not 100% convinced he'd sell enough heads to make money. I think maybe that is why he set the price so high, then he kept it high. $2-300 higher priced than olds and AMC per head. I've never heard a satisfactory reason why they are so high priced over other street type Performer heads. I don't expect Pontiac heads to be priced like a SBC is, but they are easily the highest priced aluminum street type head Edelbrock sells. maybe the Speedmaster will bring Edelbrock to a more realistic price, but maybe not... Capitalism has been known to cause competition, and bring down prices on inflated items. Look what happened to GM sheetmetal prices once they had competition for body parts..... |
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Hate to sound like a broken record but...
To set the record straight, these heads are designed and tooled in Australia, raw castings are cast in a state of the art gravity die cast foundry in China, the raw castings are shipped to California where they are CNC machined and assembled. We have sold plenty of these heads and have a set running on the Injun for the dragster right now. Zero Issues. Our Website at PontiacSpeedShop https://store-vmw8zsy8cw.mybigcommerce.com/ facebook.com/PontiacSpeedShop On Special with a FREE Intake and FREE Shipping Complete at $1799.
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These sound really interesting. Do you have any flow numbers on an unported head?
Thanks
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I'd love to try a set of these, but I think 72cc is just too small for what I got.
Any plans for something like an 85cc head?
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Quote:
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=828907
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Thanks for posting. Unfortunately, if they don't come in 85'ish cc's, they won't work for me.
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.[QUOTEThe reason I have never bought a set of Edelbrock heads is because they are too damned high priced. AMC and olds heads are significantly cheaper from Edelbrock than Pontiac heads are. I'm just not convinced Pontiac heads should be the most expensive street type aluminum head that Edelbrock makes. I'm fairly certain that olds and AMC combined don't sell a larger quantity of heads than Pontiac heads do. All 3 are orphaned engines so there is no advantages to the lower priced offerings.][/QUOTE]
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Which intake is being offered with the $1799. special?
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87cc's and im in as well.
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