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Old 10-31-2019, 07:59 PM
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I know, I have only done it, not actually read about it...lol
Just what is it that you have done Scott?

I'm new to this forum, so educate me please.

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Old 10-31-2019, 08:07 PM
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Just what is it that you have done Scott?

I'm new to this forum, so educate me please.
I'm a nobody... just a keyboard racer..carry on
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Old 10-31-2019, 08:09 PM
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I'm a nobody... just a keyboard racer..carry on
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Well, if you dont wanna share, i'll just have to base my opinion off of the things you've said in this thread...

Maybe you can tell me what makes a car a ProMod...That way if I am wrong about it, I can apologize and clear this up.

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Old 10-31-2019, 08:12 PM
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rodney posted a picture a few weeks ago scaling the car. it was 2641 with him in it.
I don't know what rules they run under. The only NHRA rule book I have here is from 2017.

Minimum weight at the conclusion of run, including driver:

Nitrous-assisted entries (910 cid) - 2,475 pounds
Supercharged entries (526 cid) - 2,600 pounds
Turbocharged entries (526 cid) - 2,650 pounds

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Old 10-31-2019, 08:16 PM
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TURBOCHARGER
Twin turbochargers limited to 88mm each. Turbocharger size will be
verified by measuring the housing bore at the leading edge of the
impeller wheel. The maximum diameter of the housing bore at the
leading edge of the wheel may not exceed 2mm more than the
maximum allowable turbocharger size permitted. All turbochargers
must meet SFI Spec 61.1. Air-to-air or water-to-air intercoolers
prohibited.
Boost controller manufactured by Hyperaktive Performance Solutions,
part No. PMBL mandatory. No other boost controller or form of boost
control permitted. Must be installed per manufacturer’s instructions as
documented on NHRARacer.com: NHRA Accepted Products, NHRA
Accepted Product Specifications, Pro Mod, Hyperkontrol Boost
System Installation and Operation Manual. Any modification to or any
attempt to disable or defeat the boost controller is prohibited. Any
attempt to corrupt or delete data associated with the boost controller is
prohibited. Maximum boost may only be set by NHRA officials.
Boost Pressure Limit: 38 psi

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Old 10-31-2019, 08:35 PM
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So i see the head studs and look larger but what about the other pieces sticking up?
Interesting.
Possibly a deck extension?
(or used them for torque plate when honing?)


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Old 10-31-2019, 08:46 PM
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TURBOCHARGER
Twin turbochargers limited to 88mm each. Turbocharger size will be
verified by measuring the housing bore at the leading edge of the
impeller wheel. The maximum diameter of the housing bore at the
leading edge of the wheel may not exceed 2mm more than the
maximum allowable turbocharger size permitted. All turbochargers
must meet SFI Spec 61.1. Air-to-air or water-to-air intercoolers
prohibited.
Boost controller manufactured by Hyperaktive Performance Solutions,
part No. PMBL mandatory. No other boost controller or form of boost
control permitted. Must be installed per manufacturer’s instructions as
documented on NHRARacer.com: NHRA Accepted Products, NHRA
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System Installation and Operation Manual. Any modification to or any
attempt to disable or defeat the boost controller is prohibited. Any
attempt to corrupt or delete data associated with the boost controller is
prohibited. Maximum boost may only be set by NHRA officials.
Boost Pressure Limit: 38 psi

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Chief ran the 3.99 at Lights out 7 in the Radial vs the world class. Those rules are more forgiving then Pro mod.

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Old 10-31-2019, 08:56 PM
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Chief ran the 3.99 at Lights out 7 in the Radial vs the world class. Those rules are more forgiving then Pro mod.
No question Tommy's car and engine are bad arse. But Scott has to try and knock others. Scott also kept going after Rodney and Travis and their Pro Mod's performance. I just wanted to show the rules they have to run under are not the same as Tommy.

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Old 10-31-2019, 09:13 PM
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Another pic from facebook. Block has been freshened up while the car is down. So i see the head studs and look larger but what about the other pieces sticking up?
Looks like additional cylinder head fasteners to me.

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Old 10-31-2019, 09:25 PM
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Looks like additional cylinder head fasteners to me.
Looks like 10 extra head studs per side to me. Hard to see from the pic, and I didn't know how to make it larger. They look like 7/16" studs if the big ones are 9/16". Or 3/8" if the big ones are 1/2", hard to tell from one little picture. Having a 5 on 6 bolt pattern around each cylinder and a billet block should allow a huge amount of boost without popping a head gasket. Bridging across a 4.6" bore center with only 10 bolts requires a very stiff head without using additional fasteners. Looks like they chose to do both. Billet custom block and deck layout gives you lots of flexibility in design. Very nice. So is that a Kauffman designed billet block? If it is than at least 2 companies have a few out there.

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Old 10-31-2019, 10:01 PM
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No question Tommy's car and engine are bad arse. But Scott has to try and knock others. Scott also kept going after Rodney and Travis and their Pro Mod's performance. I just wanted to show the rules they have to run under are not the same as Tommy.

Stan
Thats the thing that I was talking about...Scott seems to need to bash others instead of hyping Tommy's combo on its own merits...

Travis and Rodney ran really good, ALONG time ago, with way less quality pieces...It doesnt take anything away from KRE, nor Tommy, to say that...

I am glad as hell to see the new stuff rolling out for our brand...And I look forward to seeing the results that will surely follow...

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Old 10-31-2019, 10:24 PM
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No question Tommy's car and engine are bad arse. But Scott has to try and knock others. Scott also kept going after Rodney and Travis and their Pro Mod's performance. I just wanted to show the rules they have to run under are not the same as Tommy.

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Does Butler run Pro Mod at any race? As for Justin was he running Nitro in car at that race?

GTO George

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Old 10-31-2019, 10:46 PM
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Does Butler run Pro Mod at any race? As for Justin was he running Nitro in car at that race?

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I don't know Do You?

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Old 10-31-2019, 10:57 PM
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Old 10-31-2019, 11:27 PM
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Does Butler run Pro Mod at any race? As for Justin was he running Nitro in car at that race?

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Nitro? In a turbocharged combo?

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Old 11-01-2019, 12:11 AM
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In one of the last no prep episodes Chief said he can't run 3.9s/4.0s without nitro. Nitro isn't allowed in the no prep series. He normally runs M5 fuel which starts at 5% nitro, who knows what % he normally runs.

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Old 11-01-2019, 05:48 PM
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Nitro? In a turbocharged combo?
Yes.... m5 is very user friendly... large window for error... little tuning over a normal tune to make more power.

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Old 11-01-2019, 08:37 PM
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Yes.... m5 is very user friendly... large window for error... little tuning over a normal tune to make more power.
What percentage of nitromethane is in M5?

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Old 11-01-2019, 09:08 PM
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What percentage of nitromethane is in M5?
5%.... it's a very low amount... nitro is just highly oxygenated fuel... that where the power comes from.... it's all illegal in most sanctioning bodies...
Like I said, you can run it without really tuning an engine any different....
There are products that are undetectable in a fuel test...

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Just what is it that you have done Scott?

I'm new to this forum, so educate me please.
You are new …. Scott is a very accomplished racer ….

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