[goat69SD]

Originally Posted by Half-Inch Stud

So i heard stories the 66 Charger had a nice fluorescent dash. Assuming the 68 does also.

The 69-70 GTO Dark Blue interiors can be a real nice look.

No the 68 does not have that. Totally different dash.

[Half-Inch Stud]

Originally Posted by goat69SD

No the 68 does not have that. Totally different dash.

Ah dang. A PMD fella owned the 66 Charger (Hideaways, Fluorescent dash), along with a 4CYL Tempest, and crowed about the state-of-art & beauty in the 66 Charger dash. 68 dash looks pretty good.

I'm stupid partial to the 68 GTO/LeMans dash, with nods to the 69-72 GTO/LeMans/GP dash.

[goat69SD]

Originally Posted by 433lemans

I understand early 69's had the stainless rocker mouldings behind the rear wheels, my early 69 Lemans had them as does yours as shown in the pic.

After looking mine are stainless but all of them on this car are stainless. The rear as well as the front.

[433lemans]

To clarify, I'm only trying to say that early 69 A-bodies (GTO, Lemans, etc.) were equipped with rear rocker mouldings. Sometime during the model year, mid year, the rear rocker mouldings were eliminated from factory production, for some reason, on these models.
And yes they are stainless, as aluminum would surely never hold up to continuous road rash.

[goat69SD]

Originally Posted by 433lemans

To clarify, I'm only trying to say that early 69 A-bodies (GTO, Lemans, etc.) were equipped with rear rocker mouldings. Sometime during the model year, mid year, the rear rocker mouldings were eliminated from factory production, for some reason, on these models.
And yes they are stainless, as aluminum would surely never hold up to continuous road rash.

That I do not know but I have a friend with a 69 GTO and his did have the rear moldings but no dash emblem as we have. I will get a date of build from his just for comparison. I did not realize that they eliminated them later on. I am kind of new to the GTO over all. And well mine was not a very good source to learn from as it was missing parts lol.
Don

[johnta1]

Here's a service bulletin on this:
(so, probably after 2-24-69 went into effect)

[goat69SD]

Thank you for that information! Learning about these old cars is what it is all about. Great information. My 69 has the emblem as well as the rear molding and the parking brake trim.
Thanks for the post
Don

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

GTO's could get RamAir 3 engine/induction before the Judge came out.
But not until some time in November 1968 , are the earliest cars we have found.
Your September car wouldn't be a prospect, but all the better if you have some of the items.
Judges started production around mid-january.

GTO dash emblem lasted until about mid-February.
Judge on glovebox started around end of Feb

Lower Quarter trim stopped around end of Feb , depending on plant sometimes.
Convertibles kept them the whole year.

Any car with Rally2 wheels in 69 got the black center lugnuts.
And black PMD center caps
Judges were the only ones without trim rings

Pick any color combo that makes you happy.
We can live with it.

What can you tell us about your engine ?
Year model , block code , head code , carb #

[goat69SD]

Thank you as well for information. I didn't know squat about the engines and just grabbed one on craigs list because I have not seen a lot around here. I picked this one up in Cheyenne Wy. I will get the numbers off of it and post them. I don't think it is any great engine. I re-built it but have not fired it yet. I was impressed that the heads were closed chambered . They have a 13 that is in the center above the exhaust manifold.

[goat69SD]

I have a friend that got me into building a GTO. He has a 65 and a 69. He raced the 69 years back and the body has very low miles on it but no original engine at this point. He just had an engine built (in Florida I think) It is a large stoker with over 500HP. I am going to invite him to the forum . He has been a Pontiac man all his life.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

13's are a pretty good head. One of the best D-Port heads.
If its a matched complete engine , would be a 350hp from a 1970 GTO/Fbird /GrandPrix
Either a YS or XH block code

Exh manifolds look good too !

[goat69SD]

This is the tag off my buddy's car. Not getting the date code figured out but think it's May of 69?

[Greg Reid]

1 A... First week of January looks like to me. That would be 1969 by default . Burgundy with Parchment interior. Sounds like a beauty.

[433lemans]

Burgundy with parchment, WOW! Great combination!

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

The numeral is the Month
The letter is the Week

His car was built in Baltimore , MD plant (BAL)
Never find buildsheets in 69 Baltimore cars.

But you might find one in your Fremont car..
I can't remember about them right now and can't check my files

[goat69SD]

Thanks Greg I will let him know the build date. The car had only around 40K on it when it was races. Jeff still has the RAIIII heads that was on it when he bought it. The engine in it now was done by an engine builder in Florida. Using a 389 block it was stroked to just under 500 Cubic inches and was putting out a bit over 500 HP. Very impressive engine. Is there any other information on those tags? I know color interior color build date and place of origin . Just wondering if it tells anything else.
Thanks
Don

[goat69SD]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

The numeral is the Month
The letter is the Week

His car was built in Baltimore , MD plant (BAL)
Never find buildsheets in 69 Baltimore cars.

But you might find one in your Fremont car..
I can't remember about them right now and can't check my files

Thank you Baron I really appreciate all the information! I know Mopar and Ford but the Pontiac is pretty new to me.

[johnta1]

Lots of info on the tag, maybe not real useful sometimes?

24237 is for the division series in this case a GTO.
If it had say 23327 and someone said it was a GTO, it would be wrong. But only according to the cowl tag. That's why PHS for Pontiacs is such a great thing.

The number after the BAL (Baltimore plant) 557747 is the body number. But this also can mean different things at different plants.

To the right of the date code - 1 A is a B, which not sure what that means for Baltimore plant.

The numbers after the 'B' - 095669 is probably a code for the Baltimore plant, possibly a unit count of where it was on the line and a date code?
These aren't really known for sure. Also they differ a lot from plant to plant. (some have them some don't)

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Just wondering if it tells anything else

Nothing substantial regarding equipment or options from trim tag or VIN.
Have to order the PHS Invoice to get the real details.

Some earlier years tell some content codes on trim tag.
70 GTO made in Canada gives some good content codes on trim tag.

[goat69SD]

Originally Posted by johnta1

Lots of info on the tag, maybe not real useful sometimes?

24237 is for the division series in this case a GTO.
If it had say 23327 and someone said it was a GTO, it would be wrong. But only according to the cowl tag. That's why PHS for Pontiacs is such a great thing.

The number after the BAL (Baltimore plant) 557747 is the body number. But this also can mean different things at different plants.

To the right of the date code - 1 A is a B, which not sure what that means for Baltimore plant.

The numbers after the 'B' - 095669 is probably a code for the Baltimore plant, possibly a unit count of where it was on the line and a date code?
These aren't really known for sure. Also they differ a lot from plant to plant. (some have them some don't)

Thank you!