[Scarebird]

Tom, I have seen them around here for work crews (think BNSF)

They are loooong!

[misterp266]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

MOST crew cab vehicles, if not all, have the shorter bed, DOH!



Tom V.

DOH???

They are available, but an extended cab with an 8’ bed is a better choice for a camper. My point was that he made a poor choice for what he intended to do. Both the truck dealer and the camper dealer gave him false information because they only wanted to make a sale.

[gtokid1968]

Mine
Have all been long bed
That's why I had to order a new one can't find them like before the woohon flu!
A short bed truck is just a Big Mini van!
JM2C's

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[misterp266]

There are those of us who no longer work hard (retired) but still want a pickup truck. You can no longer buy a regular cab short bed truck. In fact, GM has stopped making even extended cab Canyon/Colorado trucks. Crew cabs only. As I stated already, they’ve become luxury family sedans most of which never have anything in the bed.

[gtokid1968]

3 of the 4 I have owned.
The last pic is the current driver and will be for sale next month.

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[SRR]

Originally Posted by misterp266

I’m gonna side with not covered under warranty. I did not realize that it was not an 8’ bed. Only an idiot would buy a short bed truck to put a camper in. It puts the axle too far forward. It sounds as if the dealer told him it would work. Anything for a sale I guess.

Plus he has some kind of motorcycle hanging off the back? I wonder if he had his water tank and sewage tank full?

I've only owned 1 short bed truck, a 2001 Dakota quad cab. It was a great truck being fast and handled awesome. Next to useless as a truck with that small box on the back.

[Tom Vaught]

MOST, is the word I used, Know nothing about the Ram or Chevy/GMC line for trucks.
As far as the Ford Trucks go, You could order a the following:

2022 Ford F-150 Bed Options & Model Availability. There are three cargo bed options for the 2022 Ford F-150 — a 5.5-foot bed, 6.5-foot bed, and 8-foot bed. The short bed is available exclusively with SuperCrew cab models, while the long bed is available with regular and SuperCab F-150 models.

No 8 foot long bed available with the Crew Cab Truck. Has been that way for years to my understanding.
But RAM Trucks and Chevy/GMC trucks may have a different policy.
But post up these extended bed crew cab examples for a Ford Truck.

Tom V.

[misterp266]

There are 14 new Ford SD crew cabs with 8’ beds in stock within 20 miles of me. F150s are not designed for in bed campers so it doesn’t really matter.

https://shop.ford.com/inventory/supe...larBuild=false

With the shorter bed, the weight of the fresh water tank plus the grey water tank certainly adds to the problem. That motorcycle adds a lot more. I think he was lucky to go as far as he did before having his problem. The camper was probably porpoising until the frame weakened enough to break. Having driven one across country and back, they catch a lot of air. I don’t recall the weight but his is pretty heavy.

['ol Pinion head]

Originally Posted by TAKerry

A 6.4 hemi reg cab has more payload than a 6.7 cummins dually? That stretches it for me a bit. Especially when it looks like the truck in question is at least a 2500(or whatever ram calls them).

One would have to have better knowledge of the payload and factory specs of the exact truck though to know for sure, But if everything was well within standards warranty should def. kick in.

My bet, & I haven't done a deep dive to investigate the exact drivetrain weights, is the late model 6.7 Cummins engine & accessories weighs more than the 6.4 Hemi & engine accessories in the same chassis hd pickup. That extra weight of the big Cummins adds to the weight of the vehicle & thus decreases the GVWR.

[242177P]

This all could've been avoided if they had bought a fifth wheel camper

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by 72projectbird

Overload any truck, and you'll start finding the failure points pretty quickly.

I have a Ram and love it. I've hauled thousands of pounds with it over thousands of miles, and it's been rock solid.

This is the most accurate statement, I have read, concerning ANY manufacturers offering with a Truck.

Tom V.

Have a Happy New Years Day.

[misterp266]

Originally Posted by 242177P

This all could've been avoided if they had bought a fifth wheel camper

You’re right!

[242177P]

Originally Posted by misterp266

You’re right!

[Jonsie]

There's gotta be some kinda law!

[Drag Star Le Mans]

So many WTFs I can't quote them all.

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by Drag Star Le Mans

So many WTFs I can't quote them all.

Probably most of the mods were not done by the owners but by a "fabricator" who had no knowledge of the
dangerous situation they were putting the owners in.

The 4X4 truck being one of the best examples of how to do it totally wrong.

Tom V.

[mgarblik]

Originally Posted by 242177P

Hey, they did reinforce the taillgate with the little chains and loops through the sheet metal!! It's all good now.

[Scarebird]

...don't forget it has a 4x4 of wood to support with a piece of plywood to spread the load.

[SRR]

Originally Posted by muscle_collector

i think you have the only 6.5 still running in existence. mine started going bad when it had around 6k miles on it. biggest piece of garbage i ever owned. that is why ive been driving fords ever since.

My truck is kind of a freak. It's a 94 C3500 with only 130,000 miles on it. When I went to look at the truck it had a new trailer hitch on it and I asked why? He said it didn't have one before. So, your telling me this truck never pulled a trailer? There was no 5th wheel ball in the bed ether. He told me the old man he bought it from only used it to carry hay out to his horses. I have had a couple problems with it like the fuel pump module ($250.00) crapping out on me. It's was mounted under the intake on the injection pump. It has since been relocated to the back of the front license plate. The lift pump($90.00) died on it also. I also replaced the oil cooler lines with steel braided ones.

Every truck has it's quirks and being I work a parts counter I see what sells a lot for different makes. With Ford it's steering boxes, ICP parts, vacuum pumps and steering parts, GM trucks seem to eat wheel hub assemblies and fuel pumps. The Dodges seem to have a lot of electrical Gremlins going by the code scans we do. No truck is perfect!

[455dan]

Originally Posted by Jay S

We have a 6.7 2008 mega cab 4x4, my brothers daily driver. For the first 230K miles it average 15-16 mpg, the fresh oil would be black as soon as it was started up. Then one day the service engine light came on and the code was for the EGR. Ever since the light came on, it gets 22 to 23 mpg, and the oil looks like new between oil changes. That does not speak very well for that EGR system.

I have averaged nearly 30 (29.7 mpg on the interstate) on a 350 mile round trip with my 2003 4wd 2500, 4 dr short box, usually gets 24 to 25. From what I have heard with my friends running new Diesels the DEF system is an improvement over past emissions equipment, and fuel economy is almost up caught up to our older trucks, I have not heard of anything quite as efficient as the 03 truck though.

Have done as well as 24.4 MPG with my manual trans 03 The overhead lie o meter was reading over 28MPG

That story on the MPG egr increase makes sense. we had a 2012 2500 Cummins RAM in the family that would end up with over a quart extra in the oil pan of pure diesel. Dealer said to under fill the engine by a quart so it would be full of the diesel diluted oil by change time. Truck did the same with oil turning dirty almost immediately. Both 2003 trucks the oil stays clean for thousands of miles.

We hauled a bit heavy with my nephews 2500 long box getting my new old digger home,. Would have used my Cummins but it is set up for fifth wheel and the only trailer at the time was the gooseneck.
Thought the backhoe weighed 11.6Klb but after doing a bit more research think the load was closer to 14k plus the trailer.

I Like my Cummins but the gas Hemi in the 2015 really did a really decent job of towing a heavy load.