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Is the two-tone car Antique Gold?

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No, it's CR with a black roof and black buckets. M20 car with typical options, sold new in Minnesota.

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There's a gold one in whomever has the online registry. Now I know of two, though that seems marginally fewer than the 1970s that I know.

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how many ra4 cars are in your list?

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Old 11-28-2019, 06:37 PM
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I have 22 RAIV judges and another 26 non Judges with RAIV

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A bit of info about the first non pattern Judges by plant...

Atlanta...
earliest shipping date of a non-pattern is Feb 28th, was also the lowest VIN 121XXX

Baltimore...
earliest shipping date is Jan 23rd, also lowest VIN 151XXX (actually two cars shipped same day) but both to Canada
the next earliest is the infamous power antenna Judge Jan 28, another Canadian car
the earliest US shipped car is Feb 14VIN 158XXX

Framingham:
Jan 27th 125XXX

Arlington:
earliest date is Feb 28th (141XXX) but a different car shipped in March has a lower VIN 135XXX (other cars with about the same VIN shipped feb 4th)

Fremont:
earliest date and VIN, Jan 31st, 115XXX

So it looks like non pattern cars became available for shipment to Canada in the third week of January, then California the very end of January and then mid February for the rest of the US

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There are several early non pattern judges from the California plant in very early february but none (other than Baltimore cars bound for Canada) from the other plants.

FYI, I didn't include the home plant because they only began A body production in mid April. Which is why the Baltimore plant by early May produced almost no GTO hardtops, just convertibles (The home plant only produced the hardtop version of the GTO during the 69 model year).

Also, all Canadian convertibles were built in Baltimore and Canadian hardtops came from Baltimore and then Pontiac.

The only plants that produced GTO's for overseas was Baltimore and Pontiac.

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Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin View Post
Must have been a ghost in the system when Aldiaz posted.

He also made the same post in another Judge Section thread at the same time.

I got a notify at the same time for it as well.



the "Early Production Judge ?????" thread

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...9&goto=newpost



But neither thread was bumped into the first listing page when i came on the site.

Aldiaz - did you make the posts back in May , or just yesterday ?









Are you referring to Judges earlier than his from Framingham ?

Those would be interesting documents to see if that is the case.


Im more lost than ever trying determine how early is early that my judge was
Made m
Is it the third one? Seventeenth?
Can anyone say where exactly in production numbers ?


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aldiaz1959's build sheet has Jan 9th date.
Cowl tag 01B
Shipped to zone codes 29 991 first. (which 'pattern Judges' would have been)

The Navy Industrial Yard Building #2 is interesting possibly.
(shipped to not charged to)

Maybe an Overseas thing?


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Im still confused . Does anyone know the order of production of the Judge . Was my judge the first pattern judge produced?
The first to come off the Framingham plant ?
Does my judge any significant historic significance?
I know its early but exactly how early?
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Al, there is absolutely no way to determine which '69 Judge was first, 2nd, 3rd, etc. Pontiac built too many of them.

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