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Old 12-05-2019, 01:09 PM
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If I could only have one of the two packets I’d take the PHS one .

Up to you if you’d want to spend $140 to find out the original dealer. I’d guess it was worth it if you were trying to track down earlier owners.

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Old 12-06-2019, 04:46 PM
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If I could only have one of the two packets I’d take the PHS one .

Up to you if you’d want to spend $140 to find out the original dealer. I’d guess it was worth it if you were trying to track down earlier owners.

my canadian documents from vintage vehicle services told me the original selling dealer...

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Old 12-09-2019, 12:39 PM
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I saw some pics online a couple of years ago of a Carousel Red Judge
convertible inside a barn covered with dirt and bird poop that had been sitting there since the late 70's. It belonged to the original owner's family and it was
a very loaded up car with options like power windows and seat, power trunk release, A/C. wood wheel , tilt column and yes it had a rear power antenna that the family claimed had been there since it left the factory. The build sheet
was not pictured it but it was claimed to be a totally legit special ordered Judge.
Interestingly, the very first Judge prototype built by Royal Pontiac where they
converted the Limelight green Ram Air IV hardtop press car had a power antenna. I added a power antenna to my car 45 years ago and I love it. Actually
you can raise the antenna up quite a bit before it interferes with the spoiler.
I did this because the noise the front fender antenna made at highway speeds with the top down was very annoying.

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Old 12-09-2019, 04:54 PM
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That barn car eventually got documented , and was not a Judge Convertible.

That was the one stored with the top down. iirc
Think it panned out as a YS car , also.

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Old 12-09-2019, 05:02 PM
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Yes, that sounds like the car.......the top was down and the whole car
covered with decades worth of grime.

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Old 12-09-2019, 05:28 PM
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Clearly power antennas were not offered on Judges, somehow this Canadian car slipped through, perhaps by accident? I suspect that because they were only building pattern cars at that time they hadn't formalized any conflict restrictions with options and this one sneaked in under the wire.

On a sort of related subject I had many years ago a 68 GP, it had a factory power antenna that got mangled a few times. Unlike the rest of the 68 fullsize Pontiac's the 68 GP had unique rear sheetmetal that included a very wide rear trunklid that was trapezoidal (wider at the bumper end than at the backlight end). So if you left the antenna up the antenna would rub against the trunklid as you opened it. Worse if it was half way up you'd catch the top of the mast closing the trunklid.

Obviously the problem with an antenna interacting with a judge spoiler is even worse.
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