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Old 12-23-2019, 11:57 AM
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The starter motor “Solenoid” switch used on the 64,65,66,67 GTO came in two varieties.

The standard 4bbl. and optional Tri-Power used the 1114356 switch with the Bakelite cap.

The 1967 HO/RA came equipped with the 1114348 switch with the Metal cap.
Known as the “348” version. This unit was also used on the later RA/SD cars.

Obviously a more brutal construction to handle the heat generated by the Larger cast iron exhaust manifolds.

One of these “348” units just sold on auction for a hefty price.

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Old 12-23-2019, 01:18 PM
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wow!!

I didn't know about these - I knew there were different solenoids, and I have had my share of issues with solenoids that would heat soak.
I wonder if these can be rebuilt...

For those who care;

Ebay auction: 274154503619
Sold date: December 21, 2019
Sold price: $550usd (incl shipping)

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Old 12-23-2019, 03:06 PM
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An astute member emailed me asking if the two different solenoids were a different length.

Here ya go GB. Took a few more pics.

The metal cap on the “348” is shorter, but overall length with the threaded studs are the same on both.

The metal heat shield came on the HO/RA cars, so I recommend this on any GTO.

Last pic shows the recent auction on the “348”.
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Old 12-23-2019, 03:38 PM
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Chris, thanks for posting this info.
Seriously in all my years I have never seen one of those solenoids with the metal end cap, only the plastic/bakelite end cap ones.
I wonder if any other GM divisions used the metal one?

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Old 12-24-2019, 03:32 AM
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An astute member emailed me asking if the two different solenoids were a different length.

Here ya go GB. Took a few more pics.

The metal cap on the “348” is shorter, but overall length with the threaded studs are the same on both.

The metal heat shield came on the HO/RA cars, so I recommend this on any GTO.

Last pic shows the recent auction on the “348”.
Ah ha! So they are the same overall length, an optical illusion at first glance.
Nice work, Chris!

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Old 12-24-2019, 05:34 PM
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I took some pictures of my solonoid when I was working in that area . Mine is the 1114348 with the heavy duty starter 1108353 . I think this starter only was used in the 67-69 ho ram air cars . I could be wrong though. My car is a 67 gto ho

Solonoid for sale 1000 dollars comes with 52 year old grease ...J/K lol
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Old 12-24-2019, 05:35 PM
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I took some pictures of my solonoid when I was working in that area . Mine is the 1114348 with the heavy duty starter 1108353 . I think this starter only was used in the 67-69 ho ram air cars . I could be wrong though. My car is a 67 gto ho

Solonoid for sale 1000 dollars comes with 52 year old grease ...J/K lol
Thanks for the great info Chris . I woulda never known

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Old 12-24-2019, 05:42 PM
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Thanks for the great info Chris . I woulda never known
Your welcome!

Thanks for those photos you posted from your “real deal” 67 HO.
Nice to see both those OEM components are still there.

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Old 12-25-2019, 07:33 AM
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In the 1970 Pontiac Service Manual i find the Ram-Air #1108436 starter using #1144366 solenoid.
This starter and solenoid is found in the 1971-74 Service Manuals for H.O./R.A, and S.D. engines.
Makes me think #1114348 is a service replacement unit?
Also, the solenoid #1114458 cannot be found in the Service Manuals.

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Old 12-25-2019, 09:47 AM
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In the 1970 Pontiac Service Manual i find the Ram-Air #1108436 starter using #1144366 solenoid.
This starter and solenoid is found in the 1971-74 Service Manuals for H.O./R.A, and S.D. engines.
Makes me think #1114348 is a service replacement unit?
Also, the solenoid #1114458 cannot be found in the Service Manuals.
Replacement is correct
1114348 1967-74 1967-70 T8 400 HO or Ram Air, 1970 All F Ram Air, 1971-74 All 455 HO or SD
1114458 1973-74 1973-74 All 400 455 exc Super Duty

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