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Old 03-31-2020, 11:42 AM
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I just looked up my 69 Judge PHS's, this car seems to be the earliest non CR Judge. I'm not 100 percent sure as I have many PHS's with close invoice dates and VIN's that indicate trim tag date of late February into early March.

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Old 04-01-2020, 01:39 PM
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I bet if it was orange it would of sold.
People still want the signature color.
Probably right, at least would get some close offers.
Orange/Parchment/White Top with Auto/AC , would be a sharp car to drive.

Mayfair is just the lowest rung on the 69 totem pole.
10k with no reserve might get some bites.

Earliest Non-Orange Judge in my files too.

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Old 04-01-2020, 02:13 PM
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A mayfair automatic judge with a vinyl top is nifty to look at and probably very rare but very few potential judge buyers would want it in their garage.

Back in the early 80’s I got my hands on an original 69 Pontiac paint chip sheet and I marked it up with my best to worst rating. Funny thing is I still have it and my worst ratings were for Expresso, Mayfair and all the greens which are the colors of almost all my cars today, go figure.

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Old 04-02-2020, 12:09 AM
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I'm sorry u feel that way John.
I beg to differ. I'm not stupid,I know people like the 4spds better but a judge is a judge and to say its not desirable is reaching a bit.
I agree

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Old 04-02-2020, 11:52 AM
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as I get older and my knees and hips are getting weaker an automatic will keep you in the drivers seat longer than a stick.

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Old 04-03-2020, 12:58 AM
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This is one of the more interesting Judges I've seen in recent memory. Kinda like the silver/blue/blue Judge that someone here used to own--both are what keep this hobby interesting.

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Old 04-03-2020, 06:21 AM
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as I get older and my knees and hips are getting weaker an automatic will keep you in the drivers seat longer than a stick.
Its funny, because as cool as a stick is in a muscle car, I would not want a stick as my daily driver. But always would prefer a stick if I am going out for a cruise. I am guessing thats how most people were feeling when buying these cars new. Especially if your daily commute was in traffic. With a few exceptions, most of these cars were daily drivers to work, school, wherever. Today these cars are the fun to drive classics & many leans toward the manual trans, but I am guessing that was not the case 50 years ago.

30+ years ago I had a GMC Jimmy with a stiff aftermarket clutch setup that was a beast to drive. Todays manuals with all their improvements are so easy on the driver by comparison.

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Old 04-03-2020, 04:16 PM
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Very neat unique color combo 69 GTO Judge even with a auto trans, desirable because it is different/special.

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