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Pontiac Performance 1960-1974 Era of Super Duty, HO, & Ram Air Drag Cars Book by Don Keefe
Looks like a great Book. View details here. https://www.bopengineering.com/books.shtml We also still have a few signed copied of the re-issue Jim Hand book left.
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@Wade
Could you tell me how this was written? Is this a book compiling straight up facts akin to "The Pontiac bible"? (aka: Pete McCarthy's book 'Pontiac Musclecar Performance 1955-1979') Or is this written to read more like a story akin Joe Oldham's 'Muscle car confidential' or Jim Wangers 'Glory Days'?
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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As the author of the book, I can tell you that it's really neither approach but has some qualities of both.
Here is the Preface: In the course of preparing any historical retrospective, it is necessary to tell a story not only in the of recitation relevant facts in a tightly-cropped fashion but to tell the entire story. That seems obvious but what exactly does that mean? All too often, works concentrating on the various topics of automotive history reduce the story of a particular car, developmental program or generation of vehicles to a regurgitation of technical facts, dimensions and other details like production numbers and available colors. All of it is relevant but it’s only part of the story. When reading a particular article or book, if the reader starts asking questions like, “Why did they do that?” or “Why did that happen that way?” and if that work doesn’t answer those questions, then it didn’t do the entire job. History doesn’t take place in a vacuum and in order to do the job completely, the author must present those stories within a larger framework, that being the context of the times in which they took place. All too often, we walk away with unanswered questions and the experience is less than satisfying, as we didn’t get to our desired destination in the quest for more knowledge. The purpose of this book was to answer those questions and also present the story of Pontiacs in drag racing in such a way that it does all of the above and if we were truly successful, even answers a few questions that you might not have thought of. A classic example of this is why we included information about the Kennedy Administration and the action of then Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy. This is likely the first time RFK was included in a drag racing history but in many ways, he had as large a hand in the development of the GTO as the engineers at Pontiac because he set in motion the events that led up to the 1963 GM Ban on Racing. From there, Pontiac took the performance message to the street and the GTO was born. This added context makes the story easier to understand, as it completes the picture. It makes no sense on its face that GM would suddenly abandon one of the most successful promotional programs and face a possible decline in sales. When that larger picture of the era is presented, the reasons become more clear. What we have done here is to chronicle a few different things going on at the same time: The development story at Pontiac, the lay of land with the larger racing and musclecar market and the actual racing of those cars. We did our best to limit the focus on cars with the traditional Pontiac V-8 engine, so you won’t see anything on the cars built in the “Corporate Era,” post 1981, which could easily be another book, nor will there be anything more than a sprinkling of the various Pontiac-bodied funny cars of the 1960s and ‘70s that used Chrysler Hemi or other powerplants. The focus of this book is on the cars and the people who made the era of the 1955-1981 Pontiac V-8 engine so impactful on the racing world. We also included a chapter on those companies that are still loyal to the traditional Pontiac V-8 and provide new parts to keep them going. That level of loyalty deserves recognition. With any book, there will no doubt be some omissions, some will be for space considerations, some will be due to a lack of available photography and some will be for logistical or other reasons. What we have done is provide as much information as was reasonably possible to fit in the allotted space of this book. We apologize in advance if your favorite racer is not included here or a story of a racing dealer’s story isn’t here. Again, the need for photos and people to interview can make the difference as to whether a particular car, driver or group of people are included. We hope you enjoy reading this book as much as we have enjoyed preparing it… - -Don Keefe Clearwater, Florida October 24, 2023
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GM, Iron Stable Garage (4/1/24- ) Founding Editor-in-Chief, Poncho Perfection 10/1/15-12/31/24) Contributing Editor: Collectible Automobile (1999- ) Author: "Grand Prix: Pontiac's Luxury Performance Car" (4/27/07) "How to Restore Your Pontiac GTO" (7/15/2012)) "Pontiac Concept and Show Cars, 1939-1980" (3/25/16) "Pontiac Performance 1960-1974: The Era of the Super Duty, H.O., & Ram Air Drag & Muscle Cars” (10/15/24) "Leave the gun, take the cannoli." |
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3 were left on Amazon so I snagged one. Thanks Don and congrats!
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Click here to order your copy, signed by the author.
Domestic Orders: https://www.paypal.com/instantcomm...../CKPDA4K3DD3M2 Orders for Delivery Outside United States: https://py.pl/9YrzsBm9g4L
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GM, Iron Stable Garage (4/1/24- ) Founding Editor-in-Chief, Poncho Perfection 10/1/15-12/31/24) Contributing Editor: Collectible Automobile (1999- ) Author: "Grand Prix: Pontiac's Luxury Performance Car" (4/27/07) "How to Restore Your Pontiac GTO" (7/15/2012)) "Pontiac Concept and Show Cars, 1939-1980" (3/25/16) "Pontiac Performance 1960-1974: The Era of the Super Duty, H.O., & Ram Air Drag & Muscle Cars” (10/15/24) "Leave the gun, take the cannoli." |
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thanks for the exhaustive reply Don!
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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When will the paid pre orders be shipping? Assuming if the book is now available on Amazon that the folks that paid months in advance at initial offering will be seeing delivery soon? |
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We haven't received our copies to sign yet but it should be fairly soon. We will be getting them out as quickly as possible.
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GM, Iron Stable Garage (4/1/24- ) Founding Editor-in-Chief, Poncho Perfection 10/1/15-12/31/24) Contributing Editor: Collectible Automobile (1999- ) Author: "Grand Prix: Pontiac's Luxury Performance Car" (4/27/07) "How to Restore Your Pontiac GTO" (7/15/2012)) "Pontiac Concept and Show Cars, 1939-1980" (3/25/16) "Pontiac Performance 1960-1974: The Era of the Super Duty, H.O., & Ram Air Drag & Muscle Cars” (10/15/24) "Leave the gun, take the cannoli." |
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For some reason the link doesn't work for me.
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Thanks!
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Same here. I watched Please wait while we perform security check and the spinning circle for 15 minutes before giving up:
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Mick Batson 1967 original owner Tyro Blue/black top 4-speed HO GTO with all the original parts stored safely away -- 1965 Catalina Safari Wagon. |
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I just tried it and it worked fine for me. Maybe clear your cache or restart? Let me know if that works. Thanks!
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GM, Iron Stable Garage (4/1/24- ) Founding Editor-in-Chief, Poncho Perfection 10/1/15-12/31/24) Contributing Editor: Collectible Automobile (1999- ) Author: "Grand Prix: Pontiac's Luxury Performance Car" (4/27/07) "How to Restore Your Pontiac GTO" (7/15/2012)) "Pontiac Concept and Show Cars, 1939-1980" (3/25/16) "Pontiac Performance 1960-1974: The Era of the Super Duty, H.O., & Ram Air Drag & Muscle Cars” (10/15/24) "Leave the gun, take the cannoli." |
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That initially seemed like a long response but after reading it I really felt like I understood your perspective.
On a side note I would be interested in the post ‘81 era from a Pontiac perspective. I’m sure there are several stories of corporate competition that would be interesting. I will be ordering a copy of this book to add to our library. |
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I did try the international paypal link, but $72usd(?) at the current exchange rate was simply to rich for me; (Our "peso" is teetering at nearly 40% - so that made a "$30" book come out to roughly $100 in my currency. ![]() When shipping international makes things too pricey, I will look into state-side shipping options - which is why I used the other link. I ordered elsewhere, and just received notification that the book has shipped. (Just to be clear, it was still a bit pricey, but I figured that I haven't bought myself something fun like this in a while) I'm looking forward to receiving this!
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) Last edited by unruhjonny; 11-04-2024 at 06:59 PM. |
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I received my book today - a good week AHEAD of schedule!
I have never had a book shipped to me where the book was wrapped before placing in the cardboard shipper - that was nice!!! I got some weekend reading lined up!!
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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I ordered mine (2) through BOP eng. Received them in the mail today. A lot of pictures I've never seen. Now to read the stories. Thanks.
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Just ordered my second batch of 100 books. Can't believe how well it's selling. Thank you all!
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GM, Iron Stable Garage (4/1/24- ) Founding Editor-in-Chief, Poncho Perfection 10/1/15-12/31/24) Contributing Editor: Collectible Automobile (1999- ) Author: "Grand Prix: Pontiac's Luxury Performance Car" (4/27/07) "How to Restore Your Pontiac GTO" (7/15/2012)) "Pontiac Concept and Show Cars, 1939-1980" (3/25/16) "Pontiac Performance 1960-1974: The Era of the Super Duty, H.O., & Ram Air Drag & Muscle Cars” (10/15/24) "Leave the gun, take the cannoli." |
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Hi Don, can you tell if my copy is in the first or seconds set of 100? I am hoping to see it before the holidays. Thanks Don.
Tom Hand
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It was in the first batch but there was less than a week between the two batches. You should have it in the next few days.
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GM, Iron Stable Garage (4/1/24- ) Founding Editor-in-Chief, Poncho Perfection 10/1/15-12/31/24) Contributing Editor: Collectible Automobile (1999- ) Author: "Grand Prix: Pontiac's Luxury Performance Car" (4/27/07) "How to Restore Your Pontiac GTO" (7/15/2012)) "Pontiac Concept and Show Cars, 1939-1980" (3/25/16) "Pontiac Performance 1960-1974: The Era of the Super Duty, H.O., & Ram Air Drag & Muscle Cars” (10/15/24) "Leave the gun, take the cannoli." |
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Thanks Don. I'm having very many problems with USPS now so it will be no surprise if they lose or delay it.
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