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01-10-2007, 09:49 PM
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curb weight
Saw a nice looking Blue 71-2 today on the East West expressway.
Made me think that maybe it wouldnt be a bad choice for a street strip model. Ive always had Firebirds and wonder if the X body is lighter or about the same.Title weight of my 68 Firebird is 3055#. Yes its a bare knuckles fighter. |
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#2
01-11-2007, 04:19 AM
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Between 3200 and 3350............thats curb weight, shipping weight is a little bit less. No problem getting them down to 3000 or less.
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01-11-2007, 08:15 AM
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3430 for my iron headed, rack and pinioned, 6 point moly caged, 12 boltd, wildood disc'd, full interior, full exhuast, bench seated 71
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01-11-2007, 10:46 PM
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So by this Im guessing the Bird with same equipment is about 200# less?
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01-12-2007, 12:29 AM
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01-12-2007, 10:23 AM
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Mine is 3250 all steel without me,(3450 w/me) with aluminum heads and some hidden lightening done. They aren't as light as everyone thinks.
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74 GTO Bracket/Street car and another 74 for the wifey to race with! 70 GTO 400, 4 spd, #'s matching and a little to nice for me to own. Friendship is like peeing your pants..everyone can see it but only you can feel the warmth! |
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01-16-2007, 01:49 AM
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Controversial topic for sure. I truly believe the 73-74 Venturas must have a lot more metal in them for the newer safety requirements. I can only speak for my 1971 Ventura, (Which is before the impact rated safety bumpers and any added crash beams). I did remove my inner fender wells, heat/AC delete, partial interior removed, minitubbed, 16 gal poly-fuel cell, swapped from power to manual steering, 4 tube headers, and aluminum wheels. Other than the aforementioned changes my "All Steel" 71 weighed 3060 lbs without my 235lbs. I have dropped the weight by at least 50-70 more pounds and plan on finding another 50-100 lbs before next Spring. I'm shooting for a 3125-3150 lb race weight!
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01-16-2007, 08:17 AM
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JD- is your fuel cell in te trunk or mounted in the OEM location?
John |
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01-16-2007, 01:32 PM
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Good luck to the new owner of the Ventura II! Sold the car after 13+ years. Look for it on the Hot Rod Power Tour in the future as it's currently being re-configured as a Pro-Touring ride!
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01-17-2007, 01:28 PM
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For 1971 the SWs are as follows: Ventura II 2-dr cpe - 3076 4-dr sdn - 3116 Firebird 2-dr hrdtp - 3164 Esprit - 3423 Formula - 3473 Trans Am - 3578 GTO (for comparative purposes) 2-dr hrdtp - 3619 2-dr cnvt - 3664 All of these weight figures came out of the GM Parts Division Pontiac Illustration Catalog 11/1/74. |
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01-17-2007, 09:56 PM
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Im talking first gen F Bird which is worlds apart from a 2 nd gen.
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01-18-2007, 12:58 PM
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Just trying to cover all of the bases for you.
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01-21-2007, 11:36 PM
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Wow Ric,
I guess Cammer 66 does'nt know who he's talking to. I think you WELL know the difference between a first and second gen F-body. Maybe he's written a magizine artile or two you could read!!! Please everyone, don't flip out. Just lighten up and take this posting "Tounge in Cheek" Little humor between Ric and I. JOHN
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01-22-2007, 11:28 AM
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LOL John...
As you imply, even though my handle is GTORIC, I am familiar with the rest of the Pontiac lineup. Hey, you and I need to get again together this summer! One of these years I will find time to get my '74 on the road. Dustoff? Gratiot? Woodward? |
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01-22-2007, 07:23 PM
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Eric,
Wow!! I need to proofread my posts better before submiting!!! I read my post and could'nt believe all the spelling errors!! Yea, we need to get the 74's out in force this year. I need to finish my interior this winter. Hope to hit some events this year.
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74 GTO 406 T400 74 Firebird 350 4-speed 68 GTO Convertible 400 T400 76 GP LJ 400 4BBL T400 78 Chevy 1/2 Ton Truck Oh yea I love my wife very much For some reason it got erased when I put it here last time!!!!!! hmmmmmmmm |
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01-22-2007, 08:36 PM
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Yea I guess I dont know what Im talking about....
Maybe I go to a Cheby board and try and carry on an intelligent conversation there. Now Im sure Ill stick to my First Gen Birds in lieu of an X body for a race car. My 67 post coupe Tempest Sprint is lighter than that. |
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#17
01-23-2007, 04:32 PM
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No one said that you didn't know what you were talking about, I just couldn't figure out why you restated FG Firebirds, so I listed the shipping weight for the '68 bird in addition to the '71 info for comparison. I thought that the PMD sourced shipping weight figure was very close to your title weight. By the way the listed SW for the '67 Tempest coupe was 3110 lbs.
Intelligent conversation on the Chebby boards? |
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#18
01-23-2007, 07:22 PM
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3130 Lbs. Before front bumper, bumper shocks, no interior except for drivers' seat, no cage or frame connectors, 1/2 a tank of fuel
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74 GTO 406 T400 74 Firebird 350 4-speed 68 GTO Convertible 400 T400 76 GP LJ 400 4BBL T400 78 Chevy 1/2 Ton Truck Oh yea I love my wife very much For some reason it got erased when I put it here last time!!!!!! hmmmmmmmm |
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#19
01-23-2007, 09:04 PM
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Sorry if rubbed anyone the wrong way.I should have just looked up the weights myself as I have the info in my 75 illustrated.Only Cheby(sorta) board Im on is for 4 th Gen F body and S10s.Too many youngsters there.
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#20
01-24-2007, 03:47 PM
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Cammer,
Did'nt rub anyone the wrong way, just thought it was funny when you said 1st and 2nd gen worlds apart!! Been messing with Pontiacs 25 years, know most of the lines, and gtoric has written articles in major pontiac mags before, so he's not exactly wet behind the ears either. LOL Oh well, no harm, no foul. Just having some fun. JOHN P.S. Like Rob said, unless you lighten them up, they are not as light as everyone thinks!! 71-72's are a little lighter.
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74 GTO 406 T400 74 Firebird 350 4-speed 68 GTO Convertible 400 T400 76 GP LJ 400 4BBL T400 78 Chevy 1/2 Ton Truck Oh yea I love my wife very much For some reason it got erased when I put it here last time!!!!!! hmmmmmmmm |
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