[The Boss]

Tom,

Post up some pictures for us - would love to see it.

[WDCreech]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

Quote:

"Tom,
How the "H" did your manifolds get modified for 65 and later heads? That intake bolt that goes through the water crossover would be a major project, especially on the drivers side! Who did the mods? That manifold would sure have the WOW factor, for anyone that saw it."

The intake was done by Richard Cole, a long time Pontiac Firebird Fanatic, (who also happens to be one of McLaren Performance Racing's top fabricators). We did three Cross Ram Intakes at the time. Skip Fix bought Richard's personal Cross Ram. Richard has since made the Ultimate Cross Ram (with a larger Single Plenum, shortened runners, and custom linkage).

We took the stock intake and plugged the front of the manifold, Bill.
We then drilled the water openings in the correct spots and ported them. We then machined the front of the intake for the proper late bolt pattern. We added material to the bottom of the intake to match the late bolt pattern port floor location. We removed the individual bore hole pattern in the plenums (open plenum design). We added a boss on the front of the cross-over for the 65 Alternator Bracket reinforcement bar. We removed the excess ear material on the rear of the intake. We added a 1" balance tube to make the engine idle like a V-8 vs (2) I-4 engines. We made custom accelerator linkage and made a cut-out in the balance tube for the Primary Holley linkage to clear the balance tube. The intake was peened in a large drum with balls like you would clean ammo brass.

There were more mods but this covers most of them.

The Intake looks like a fresh M/T casting for a 65-up Engine.

The tribute "Weber" M/T Intake is even more cool.

Tom Vaught

Thanks Tom. Sounds like too much work to me.

[Tom Vaught]

Bill you could do a lot less work and just cut off the water cross-over, use a 65 up water cross-over, and add the weld at the bottom of the intake runners/ cut off the rear tab on the heater core side.

Much less work. We were trying to achieve a FACTORY LOOK>

Tom Vaught

[WDCreech]

Thanks Tom, but I'm happy with the sheet metal, on the 606, and the Wenzler on the 474, but, if I had a Pontiac street car......

[Keith Seymore]

Here's a couple pics from back in the day; installed on a '65 GTO:





K

[The Boss]

COOL!

[Region Warrior]

Originally Posted by Adecco

nice set up I know of a 62 Catalina with this set up sitting in a warehouse in Indiana, the car even has the M/T heads on it, but the guy will not sell it, he mentioned that he used to race it at US30 back in the day, and run 11:90s' all day, and yes it is an aluminum front end car, too bad he will not sell it, believe me I offered him my 71 GTO Judge all restored and still not interested, says he will be getting to it later in life, hell the guy is 70, how muck later in life?
Sorry had to vent...

I grew up 4 miles away, and now live 2 miles from old US30.
Does he live near here?
Always like meeting old Pontiac guys.

[Skip Fix]

Here's a thread here with pics top and bottom of mine.
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...ight=Cross+ram

[Tom Vaught]

If you look at Skip's Pics you can see each of the mods I mentioned here:

We took the stock intake and plugged the front of the manifold, Bill.
We then drilled the water openings in the correct spots and ported them. We then machined the front of the intake for the proper late bolt pattern. We added material to the bottom of the intake to match the late bolt pattern port floor location. We removed the individual bore hole pattern in the plenums (open plenum design). We added a boss on the front of the cross-over for the 65 Alternator Bracket reinforcement bar. We removed the excess ear material on the rear of the intake. We added a 1" balance tube to make the engine idle like a V-8 vs (2) I-4 engines. We made custom accelerator linkage and made a cut-out in the balance tube for the Primary Holley linkage to clear the balance tube. The intake was peened in a large drum with balls like you would clean ammo brass.

Tom Vaught

[Hooter]

Went for $900. Anyone on here buy it?

[The Boss]

Not me, but congratulations!