[SD455DJ]

Originally Posted by unruhjonny

it's one of those pieces that can easily be missed upon reassembly.

We'll make sure it's there when we pull the insert and cluster to swap out hte printed circuit.

Dennis

[RicksGTO]

here is a well lit picture, the right end of the Z needs to be under the blue gauge divider directly against the metal cluster housing. Might not be the problem but it caused me a couple of odd electrical gremlins.

[SD455DJ]

All the gauges are working fine now and we figured out the culprit was old oxidized connections on the original 52 year old dash harness. Unplugging and replugging important connectors several times must have cleaned them off enough to establish better connections again. The headlight switch was also complicit causing the weird glowing lights and spastic gauge movements and reestablishing a good connection seemed to fix those issues too. It's always the simple things that can stump you, but sticking with it and walking away to clear your head can work wonders. Thanks for everyone's help and comments.

Dennis

[SD455DJ]

Checked the bulbs in the new dash gauges & tach, and they are all working. The cell phone doesn't take the best pictures when in really dark conditions.

Dennis

[unruhjonny]

I remember driving my Firebird on the highway at night;
I loved the glow of the gauges.

[SD455DJ]

Yes, me too! They are bright enough with new standard filament bulbs...not LED's.

Dennis

[SD455DJ]

Finally got the 'CL' 14x7 steel wheels from Steve Johns (Commanche) this past Thursday. We've been trying to get this deal done since 2019 when the borders shut down. So, almost 3 years later, we finally finished the deal. The wheels came off a base Firebird 350 originally from southern Californian then Arizona for most of it's life and are all dated 1/16/70 (my spare CL is 4/09/70). The wheels are original Castilian Bronze as was the Firebirds body color too, and was equipped with the optional trim rings which left only minor scratches due to the lack of moisture and minimal corrosion. The CB paint looks amazing still as does the black backsides. I haven't cleaned them up yet, but will do that before I paint them Lucerne Blue. I'm going to leave the backsides in their original black paint. Thanks Steve for saving them for me!

Dennis

[Ramairnacho]

I.too have CL 14 x 7 I have 2 or 3 2 22 dated and 2 later April CL wheels. I misplaced 2 2 22 dated and looking fir 1 2 22 .Does he have 1 a spare tire would be nice too and a trunk mat

[SD455DJ]

Originally Posted by Ramairnacho

I.too have CL 14 x 7 I have 2 or 3 2 22 dated and 2 later April CL wheels. I misplaced 2 2 22 dated and looking fir 1 2 22 .Does he have 1 a spare tire would be nice too and a trunk mat

Nope...no spare unfortunately, I just got the 4 wheels, but I have the original 'CL' spare, so don't need one. I'm not concerned about finding matching dates as it was hard enough finding a complete set of 'CL' wheels. I have the trunk mat in mine already (Ames repro).

Looks like you are in good shape wheel-wise...

Dennis

[unruhjonny]

interesting;
Almost every CL wheel I can recall seeing was a Motor Wheel stamping;
These are Kelsey Hayes.
The set of four that I bought (undated) were Norris wheels, but considering how hard they seem to be to find, I was happy to get them.
My fifth (the first one I got) was a March date too iirc.

[Ramairnacho]

An you explain in detail or show me difference of both cl wheel manufacturers

[Ramairnacho]

Sd455dj
Do they make new or repop spare tire for space saver and is cl.corrrct rim. I might have 1 or 2 extra cl rims i.could use.my jack is in my dad's garage I hope

[johnta1]

I added this CL wheel to my web page:

Rally Wheel Decode

[comanchefirebird]

You are most welcome Dennis. Sorry that it took so long to get them to you!
I'm looking forward to seeing them on your Formula
Steve

Originally Posted by SD455DJ

Finally got the 'CL' 14x7 steel wheels from Steve Johns (Commanche) this past Thursday. We've been trying to get this deal done since 2019 when the borders shut down. So, almost 3 years later, we finally finished the deal. The wheels came off a base Firebird 350 originally from southern Californian then Arizona for most of it's life and are all dated 1/16/70 (my spare CL is 4/09/70). The wheels are original Castilian Bronze as was the Firebirds body color too, and was equipped with the optional trim rings which left only minor scratches due to the lack of moisture and minimal corrosion. The CB paint looks amazing still as does the black backsides. I haven't cleaned them up yet, but will do that before I paint them Lucerne Blue. I'm going to leave the backsides in their original black paint. Thanks Steve for saving them for me!

Dennis

[SD455DJ]

Originally Posted by Ramairnacho

Sd455dj
Do they make new or repop spare tire for space saver and is cl.corrrct rim. I might have 1 or 2 extra cl rims i.could use.my jack is in my dad's garage I hope

Ramairnacho, Not that I know of. I do have a space saver spare in my '70 Judge, so I'll check the stampings out the next time I pull it out of the garage...it's buried!

Dennis

[Ramairnacho]

Thanks Dennis, my dad ran a full spare tire I believe

[unruhjonny]

the two space saver spares I have here are both 15";
they are both 1979 wheels coded RF

[SD455DJ]

Originally Posted by unruhjonny

the two space saver spares I have here are both 15";
they are both 1979 wheels coded RF

Like this ('78 TA space-saver spare)?

Dennis

[unruhjonny]

yes.
one has a crack on one spot of the rubber sidewall;
It appears as though it may have been used several times.
The other one looks very nice.

IIRC the older ones had two valve stems, or one funny one - these only have one conventional valve stem.

[Ramairnacho]

So.original was a 14 but they don't make space saver tire any more? And next best thing is the 15 inch? Hmm now I see why dad had a actual extra tire in trunk. Lol