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COMMENTS AND CRITICISM PART 2
I have been waiting since October last year to start this thread. I know my friends in this forum will steer my right; so here goes.
This was one of my winter projects. Just got it completed and ready to set in, unless someone tells me I need to do some more WORK. I DO appreciate all the info that floats around the forum. What a great way to learn!!! |
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SOME MORE
A FEW MORE
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LAST BUT NOT LEAST
THE END.. SO LET ME HAVE IT!!
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Valve cover bolts are black in the brochure.
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VACUUM BRACKET
DON, Does this show any better? LMK bill
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Must be a '64? if it's a 65 I see lots of problems.
Have you run that fuel pump yet? I have a new Carter that looks just like it but the inlet and outlet are backwards to what you have. took me 4 hours to figure out why I couldn't pull gas. first one died during second cam break in period and this one was bassackwards. |
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Looking Real Good Bill!
Push on breather cap looks to be a repro because of the round holes. The OEM caps had the trapezoid style holes in them.
If the green fuel line spring clamps have round ends they are incorrect. The early clamps were the sharp square ends. Not sure about that fan? The straight blade fans were aluminum as below (3.90 car). Black fans were the curved tip style in 64. Small item, but the link arms on both end carbs should be in the other hole as stated in the carb kits and on all Tri-Powers I've seen. Last edited by 60sstuff; 05-23-2012 at 07:40 PM. |
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Very nice indeed. Were the original valve cover gaskets cork or rubber.
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Fuel pump is 20 years old, still doing great. Probably jinxed myself!!!
Green clamps have squared off ends, and the oil cap is a repop till I FIND AN nos one. By link arms, you referring to the accel. pump? The VC bolts I really couldn't remember. Now I look real close at pics I took to help myself and guess what? They were black last year. Thanks Chad! Thanks everyone. I DO appreciate the help!!!! |
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Andre, I'm ALMOST sure the were cork back in the day.
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It is getting really, really hard to find parts cars like yours anymore.
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looking good brother! doing the vacuum system and all, like it.
not picking just asking, fan black, is that right? i have one i am doing. painting it is easier than polishing it. thks for the pics. tim |
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Let me tell you what I just discovered after 20 plus years.. My fan blades are aluminum. OMG I was not counting on that; would have bet the house they were steel.. I really don't have time for this!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT
ZBOO you know how to make a guy fell good!!!! How many guys out there had to strip and polosh their fan blades??? Any tips on getting started? I know this has been hashed out several times, but I thought it was on 65'.. What do I need to do, OR what do I need not to do???s HELP |
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Ahhh don't take it so hard, ya know we love ya.
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I'm still wondering around thinking about this situation. My rivets are definitely steel and have flat heads, not aluminum with round heads like the pic 60sstuff posted. I don't understand the flat versus the curved blades. I still need more assurance, I guess... STILL HELP!!!
Come on BOB, Jump in here any time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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1) "Engineers do stuff for reasons" Tom Vaught If you look at 99% of all of the Rochester 2BBL carbs made, the pump arm on the outside of the carb has one hole in it. Rochester Tri-Power Carbs have different arm with two adjustment Holes on EVERY outboard carb that they made. a) Ever think that there was a reason for them to produce that special pump arm for all of those years? b) Photos taken from magazines show typical hole settings for most end carbs. Rebuilt kits show average settings for most generic carbs. c) Just because the average engines that you have seen over the years, and most people copy other photos or do the average thing does not make the setting in the outer holes wrong. So why do you think that Rochester Engineers added the second hole on the end carbs? An old Carburetor Engineer would like to hear your comments. I believe there is a service bulletin out there on on this somewhere. Maybe someone can post it. When Bill Ryders carbs were redone (and by the way, Bill the finish still looks great on the carbs even though you did not have the car for several years) I had the carbs dipped by the Rochester Products Engineers, (the same people who did the Henry Ford Museum's 65 GTO carb restoration). It was a long time ago but I believe when I was putting the carbs together the Rochester Engineer and I talked about the application and he felt that based on the area of the country where Bill lived, the way the car was driven, the Vacuum set-up, etc, The Engineer said "use the outer holes for better drivability". So I truly do believe that there were cases where the Rochester Carburetor Engineers felt that the other hole position might be used. Otherwise why even have the extra hole there in the first place. Tom Vaught
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"Engineers do stuff for reasons" Tom Vaught Despite small distractions, there are those who will go Forward, Learning, Sharing Knowledge, Doing what they can to help others move forward. |
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Anyone know for sure if the small bracket on the bottom of the alternator should be plated or black? I'm not certain, but thought black. Also, the distributor hold-down, I thought natural. Not saying yours are wrong Bill, just looking for confirmation.
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Thanks TOM!! I knew you had a reason. I just had never asked and never really questioned the placement. The carb color isn't bad for 20+ years. I agree!!!!!!!!
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I have always used the inner most hole on the accelerator pump rod. It was my understanding that the outer hole was to be used when the car was at higher elevations, like Denver.
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Bill, engine ALL wrong, ship to me, I'll sort it out and get it back to you ASAP.
The addition of the 2nd pump rod hole was covered in Service News Flash 64-14, dated 10-17-63 (just 6 weeks into production). You can read about it on pg. 333 of the Resto Guide. OMT, you are correct, outer hole was intended for higher alt. & also hot weather. Early fans were steel. The running change to the aluminum fan was announced April 6, 1964. Bulletin says the new fan would be available May 1. Isn't real clear to me, but I believe the aluminum fan was not just for service, would have went into production about the same time. |
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