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Glad to hear Cliff is still doing this!!!

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Might have had a few things freshened up when the cam chain was done but that's no crime. Notice it still has the original control arm splash shields, and the arms themselves look like a car that was kept inside most of its life.

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I know of a 70 white judge,,,one owner,been sitting in a shed since the 80's..Its about 40 minutes from me. I had the owner do some work at my house in 2004 and he still had it. He has passed since then and his son owns it now. Ive left messages if he's ever interested in selling it but no response. This summer i talked to a guy that knows the son and i asked about the judge. He said its still sitting there in the shed.

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How rare are those lights ? I have one........
Rare for 69-70 GTO (like where is the mercury switch) Only slightly different with mercury switch, and on the hood, for G-body.

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Very nice! Auto or manual?

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Very nice! Auto or manual?

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Automatic based from the carb pic.

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Yes, auto trans car. I was able to do the job while he waited despite the fact that ALL the threads for the fuel filter housing came out with it! The carb had other issues from previous "tampering", which most folks call "rebuilding". The seal was off the pump and wrapped up on the return spring under it. Choke pull-off wasn't holding vacuum either. So between no accl pump and not unloading the choke of a cold start it was nearly impossible to start and difficult to drive. He'd been dealing with that at least 20 years, which probably kept the mileage down even more.........

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You know what just occurred to me;
I bet that if a book was printed, with a minimum of text, but just photos of legitimate "survivor" GTO's, Firebirds, Grand Prix's and the likes...

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Yep, a pictorial reference book. With enough photos you'd be able to spot most everything that was right or wrong by comparing them. Probably easy to put together too, wouldn't have to make a bunch of claims about "correct" or not ... just print the photos and let knowledgeable readers make the decision.

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Very nice! Thanks for sharing. I vote in favor of a pictorial reference guide as well.

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He was fortunate to end up at your place for service, perhaps your expertise gives him added confidence to enjoy his car more often. Thank you for helping him out Cliff, very well done.

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very cool!!

As someone who hopes (dreams?) to one day own an original/unmolested original Pontiac of this vintage, it's nice to know they are still out there.

Thanks for sharing this Cliff!
I saw your profile and noticed your base model Formula. I also have a 400, 3 speed , no power anything, AM radio and a few other options in Lucy blue, standard interior. So you’re not alone! Kevin

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I saw your profile and noticed your base model Formula. I also have a 400, 3 speed , no power anything, AM radio and a few other options in Lucy blue, standard interior. So you’re not alone! Kevin
Sounds like a cool car. I'd love to see some pics!

So as not to hijack this thread you could post them here: https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...19#post6364419

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My apologies for hijacking the thread, I thought I was responding to an individual. My bad.

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My apologies for hijacking the thread, I thought I was responding to an individual. My bad.
Nah, your post is great! Just wanted to see pics!

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I bet he’s going to be so much happier with his car! Too bad he didn’t visit you sooner!

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I'll bet he'll put some miles on it now that it's running like it should. I can't imagine trying to drive a car with a bad choke pull-off and accl pump in the carb. It would be nearly IMPOSSIBLE to start, and "blubber" till the choke opened the flap some, then hesitate every time you pushed on the gas pedal........

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All I know is that my Cliff Q-Jet rebuild has impressed everyone that rides in the 67 GTO...it runs like its hairs on fire !

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Shouldn’t the under hood lamp be on the hood on a RA car? Or is that just bird?

BTW really sweet car a real time capsule , would be great to see detailed pics of everything even though I’m a bird person I still like to see any original Pontiac and study things. It’s so rare to find things original and undisturbed I wish more people would post pictures .

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If someone were to take photos, I think it would be better to have them posted online, like in a thread rather than a book. That way you can download the pics and then zoom in as needed to see better. Maybe that's just my poor vision as I get older...

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