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#1
10-25-2023, 10:31 AM
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1970 Trim Tag letter A
In looking over 1970 Norwood trim tags, occasionally I've seen a letter marked on the line where the model code is stamped.
For example: W66 A There is a gap between the end of the model code and the additional letter. It's been found on Norwood T/As and Formulas. I can't recall seeing this mark on an Esprit or base. What does the 'A' signify? Were other characters besides 'A' stamped in this position?
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#2
10-25-2023, 12:43 PM
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Never noticed that. Looked through some pics I have and I have one with the A. (a TA)
What is the date codes on the tags you have with the A? Mine is 04C 
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10-25-2023, 03:09 PM
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Hi John,
My 04C Norwood Formula has an A. I found a few more cars, Formulas and TAs with that mark. I'm at the beach. When I get back home I'll find the date codes of the others.
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11-05-2023, 03:15 PM
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06 dated Trans am
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11-05-2023, 04:10 PM
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My 04D '70 Norwood Formula doesn't have the "A" (RAIII/TH400/3.55 STT if that makes any difference).
Dennis |
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11-05-2023, 06:02 PM
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Here are a couple...
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11-05-2023, 06:35 PM
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Bruce, your pic is a '4'? (WS4)
Mike's 07E kind of makes my 04x and older theory wrong. 
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11-05-2023, 07:01 PM
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Another thought is maybe it's like the 1969 Birds with the AEE on some tags? (for roof molding I think)
Not all of them had it stamped. Maybe this is an abbreviated AEE? (just A) Did also notice that some of those tags had a forward slash between the 70 and 22337.
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11-05-2023, 08:04 PM
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You might be onto something there John...mine doesn't have roof gutters/molding.
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11-05-2023, 10:15 PM
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I junked a rusty T1970 T/A that was somewhat of an oddity. The date on the cowl tag was 07A, the engine was dated March, but there was no VIN stamped into the block. It was automatic, no a/c, white with deluxe blue interior. It did not have the A.
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11-06-2023, 12:30 PM
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Quote:
Also its a white car with "Parchment" interior... I have not seen the interior, but will be interesting to see when this car gets finished.
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11-06-2023, 02:01 PM
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Here is a photo of the cowl tag of the junked 70. I have a 70 column shift car that was a late build, but I don't have a photo of the cowl tag.
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11-07-2023, 10:55 AM
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It seems like 'A' stamped on that line referred to the power window option?
John
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11-07-2023, 11:13 AM
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Thanks, John!
Now you said that, some later years (I think) used 'A' for power windows. I'll have to check some notes. Edit: 1977 (and up?) used A31 for power windows, A51 for bucket seats
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11-07-2023, 11:35 AM
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Here's a 71 TA with PW.
John
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11-07-2023, 11:36 AM
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The PHS' on the ones with the letter 'A' do have power windows.
Have to see if HFR has PHS/windowsticker for his cowltag. (I have nothing on it) I had some PHS' with roof molding but no 'A'. So a better fit for the PW. CPU, do you have PHS or knowledge if PW on your examples?
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11-07-2023, 09:05 PM
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Here is the PHS on one, don't have one for the other. But it did/does have power windows.
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11-07-2023, 09:54 PM
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The cowl tag I posted an image of did not have the A, neither did it have power windows.
Mike |
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11-07-2023, 10:55 PM
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Is this "A" coding for power windows is true for '71 also, wasn't coded that way for Van Nuys production. Could be a NOR thing only.
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11-10-2023, 06:31 PM
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My 70 formula, PW option
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