[tigergto]

Was the 65 3 speed, the same as the 64, in that the tranny wasn’t fully synchronized?

[Kenth]

1965 Muncie, M12, Standard Duty 1:st gear not synchronized.

1965 Ford Dearborn, M13, all forward gears synchronized.

[tigergto]

Originally Posted by Kenth

1965 Muncie, M12, Standard Duty 1:st gear not synchronized.

1965 Ford Dearborn, M13, all forward gears synchronized.

Thank You. Is the M13 a 3 or 4 speed transmission. Thanks again.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Both of those are 3spd

I think the side cover bolt patterns are different between them.

[unruhjonny]

I am guessing there was a typo, and that 'M12' application was for 1964(?).

The RPO tends to tell a story - the only confusing part is that many people associate an RPO with a singular physical item;
GM reused RPO's year after year, and the RPO was intended to imply the type of part installed.
The physical part installed could be different over different model years, or different in the same model year - between different body styles.
Divisional differences ad another layer of complication in using an RPO to identify a single part.

M11 or M12 were different RPO's used for a light duty or regular duty three speed transmission.

M13 was an RPO which specified a 'heavy duty' three speed.

M20, and later M21 were used for four speeds;
M20 essentially was intended to indicate a wide ratio four speed.

HERE is a link which may be useful.

[60sstuff]

Mr. Eric White book.

[OG68]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

Both of those are 3spd

I think the side cover bolt patterns are different between them.

The three speed Dearborn had a top cover and was also known as a Toploader, like its four speed counterpart.