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Old 11-30-2019, 08:52 PM
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Default 1969 Bonneville Brougham 428 ho

I was wondering how rare a 69 Bonneville Brougham is with 428 HO. I’m looking at one for sale. Has every option except disc brakes, atc air and custom sport wood wheel . Midnight green white vinyl top green interior

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Old 11-30-2019, 09:38 PM
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2 or 4 door

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Old 07-20-2020, 02:53 PM
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That invoice described the Brougham i had to a T. I often have noticed that certain models sometimes get a "pattern" build. Every option on that invoice i can confirm was on the car i had except for possibly auto leveling. I may have not noticed that. Definitely worth saving!

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Old 11-30-2019, 11:10 PM
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Old 07-20-2020, 03:19 PM
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Here is a picture of midnight green on a 68 GTO (is a 69 color not originally available on a 68).
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All I can tell you is that 549 Bonnevilles had the 428 HO. Of the big cars, it was the most popular recipient for that engine. This is from a hand-typed table found at the GM Heritage Center. If there's more specific info, I haven't seen it.

In total, 715 big cars came with that engine.

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Old 12-04-2019, 01:34 AM
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Can't tell you how many but I bought one back in the mid 80's to build the 428 HO for my race car. It had long branch manifolds and cast 62 heads. Car was loaded with options power locks (vacuum operated) windows, seat, antenna, steering, brakes, climate control, cruise, defrost, am-fm, cornering lights, tilt wheel, posi, and more. It was a Brougham with green cloth interior and green exterior (what was not rusted or painted primer black). Paid $500 for it and drove it home. Pulled motor (4 bolt mains) and built a 428 .030 over with 1970 RA IV heads (614), Warrior intake and Holley 800cfm. If had not been so rusty would have been a cool car to restore. Also bought a 67 2+2 428 car around the same time and parted that one out too. I have not seen another 69 428 HO Brougham since then.

Also there were 3 versions of the 428 in 1969. One with small valve heads. Next step up was large valve heads. Then top dog was the HO with large valve heads and long branch manifolds. Each had their own camshaft matched to horsepower rating.

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Old 07-21-2020, 01:25 AM
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I was told he didn’t like disc brakes and he didn’t trust ATC controlled AC so he didn’t order these options interestingly.

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Old 07-21-2020, 09:20 AM
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There are a couple of slight differences studying the invoice. Mine did have the A/C that you set temperature and it came off and on by itself to maintain temps. I don't think mime had instant air and may have had disc brakes. It has been a long time since i parted that car out.

BTW i had a 69 Warwick Blue GTO with parchment interior, white vinyl top, and 4 speed that i won concourse restored at GTOAA Nationals back in the 90's. Was one of the prettiest color combinations I have seen. It was in a couple of magazines. I bought it from the original owner and it only had 50k miles on it.

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Old 07-21-2020, 01:23 AM
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My 69 GTO was originally midnight green as well. Great color. I painted it Warwick blue back in 06 to mimic the car my dad had when I was a child. After GP resto is done and bonneville cleaned up and road worthy I’ll restore it back to midnight green. The Bonneville was originally from San Bernardino California and was special ordered by a county court Judge. It’s supposed to include some documentation as well. I’ll update info and pictures on Saturday after I bring it home

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Old 12-04-2019, 01:59 AM
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Thanks for the info. 428 HO Bonneville Brougham would be a good daily cruiser. Loaded unlike my GP

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There is a thread here “70 Bonneville, I drug home”, it’s a rust ball hulk, has a posi rear and front disc brakes. I am sure the price would be fair, although it’s a long ways off, sounds like it’s parts would make your (“If”) car a much better/safer driver.

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Old 12-05-2019, 12:27 AM
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I haven’t pulled trigger on it yet but seriously thinking about it... do I really NEED another project???

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Depends upon how you take it all in... maybe. The car you are considering, sounds like a solid great car. May need some TLC, fluid replacements, etc. buy the parts car yank and rebuild the front and rear end pieces, rebuild those components to swap another day...

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Old 07-27-2020, 12:29 AM
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Got “Bonnie” home safe this weekend. Had a couple blowouts on trailer but all else was good. Car is solid, no rust and very complete. A bit weathered but not bad considering it’s age and not being on the road since 2002 or so. Rebuilding engine and trans this winter and will sort all other mechanics out. Then plan to clean up interior a bit, install new top and drive it! I’ll then collect parts for it for proper restoration later on
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Hawkins, did you purchase car?

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Have not yet but thinking about it. I’ll decide after holidays

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how much can you get it for?

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I parted out the 428 HO Bonne I had. Wish it had not been so seriously rusted. Sold those manifolds and oil filter housing easily. They will work on first generation Firebirds.

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