#21  
Old 09-08-2020, 05:32 PM
PurelyGTO68 PurelyGTO68 is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 792
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by north View Post
Speaking of those rear quarter decals, ideally a set of NOS would be nice, the repops are not the right shade of white. Your car sure deserves it.

Interesting how your car is optioned, no power brakes (is it manual disc? I remember driving a 68 RA1 with manual disc, they didn't like to stop completely!) but it has an 8 track. My 69 Judge was optioned strange like that... 4.33 gears and an M21 plus manual steering and brakes but he also ordered power windows and an 8 track.
Would love NOS decals. Any ideas where I could locate a pair? Were the originals a light ivory color?

I had forgotten about those photos of that collision damage in the body shop book! Thanks for posting. Very helpful. Looks like that car has power widows or door locks. I also see the black crankcase breather tube.....very interesting. I probably should paint mine to match. Those are great shots of the head pipes. Black all the way to the mufflers. Must be some high temp paint.....

I believe you are correct that only the RA GTOs in 68 received the 4 blade fan. Frankly I am surprised how effective they are. It was 110 degrees here yesterday and my car didn't get close to overheating. I have the rally gauge pack and the temps held stead in a reasonable area. Maybe the 4.33 gear sets compliments the 4 blade fan? Higher average RPMs while cruising around probably allow that fan to function well enough.

Options on this one include:
  1. 8 Track Stereo Tape Player
  2. Rally Gauge Cluster
  3. Clock
  4. Power Steering
  5. Disk Brakes

Disk Brakes are non-power. They seem to work very well though. I sent off the calipers and master cylinder to White Post Restorations to be sleeved and rebuilt. They work much better than I expected.

This car didn't come with a hood tach or chrome exhaust from the factory. I consider those "Day 2 options". They were on the car when I bought it about 32 years ago so I figured I would include those items in the restoration. Besides, I prefer the car with a tach. I can't imagine driving with 4.33 gears and NOT having a tachometer. It's no wonder the original engine didn't last long in this car or many others that were shipped with the 4.33 gears.

  #22  
Old 09-08-2020, 06:06 PM
north's Avatar
north north is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,388
Default

There was a pair earlier this summer on eBay, they have that ivory color and also somehow the lettering shape is 'right" in a way that it isn't with the repops. same situation with the 69-70 RA hood decals.

There was a thread a while back about the location of those quarter decals too, very informative.

I think the headpipes were black to save money, i guess they figured that upfront they got hot enough that condensation corrosion wasn't an issue. It was probably just cheap black paint that would burn off in a few thousand miles.

What I recall about those manual disc brakes was how much effort it took to get that last 2 mph to zero, the opposite of lock up prone drum brakes. In terms of stopping power they were excellent. That was the last year you could get manual disc brakes on any Pontiac and also the last year you could get manual drums on any performance Pontiac (GP, GTO, FB400).

I love your shade of Verdoro. I have two original paint 69 cars with verdoro and they are very different shades. My Ventura wagon was built in California and the Verdoro is very green, my Executive was built in KC and it's Verdoro is like yours with that very noticeable gold accent to it.

__________________
My Break Away Squad
1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops)
1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt)
1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon
1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop)
1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop)
1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon
1969 Executive 4dr Sedan
1969 Bonnie Cvt
1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them)
1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt)
1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them)
1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model)
  #23  
Old 09-08-2020, 06:11 PM
north's Avatar
north north is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,388
Default

Here are some more pics from that book...

Lots of resto clues, the unpainted front and top power steering covers, hose clamp orientation. The car looks like it was almost brand new, some kid probably discovered on the way home from the dealer that a RA Pontiac 400 and 4.33 gears would write checks that those four drums just couldn't cash!
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1968 smash 1.jpg
Views:	153
Size:	69.7 KB
ID:	549080   Click image for larger version

Name:	1968 smash 2.jpg
Views:	154
Size:	82.6 KB
ID:	549081   Click image for larger version

Name:	1968 smash 4.jpg
Views:	142
Size:	85.0 KB
ID:	549082  

__________________
My Break Away Squad
1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops)
1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt)
1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon
1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop)
1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop)
1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon
1969 Executive 4dr Sedan
1969 Bonnie Cvt
1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them)
1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt)
1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them)
1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model)
  #24  
Old 09-08-2020, 06:13 PM
north's Avatar
north north is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,388
Default

a few more with a bashed in 64 as a bonus.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1968 smash 5.jpg
Views:	114
Size:	79.8 KB
ID:	549085   Click image for larger version

Name:	1968 smash 6.jpg
Views:	125
Size:	83.8 KB
ID:	549086   Click image for larger version

Name:	1968 smash 8.jpg
Views:	107
Size:	57.5 KB
ID:	549087   Click image for larger version

Name:	1964 smash 2.jpg
Views:	114
Size:	74.6 KB
ID:	549088  

__________________
My Break Away Squad
1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops)
1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt)
1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon
1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop)
1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop)
1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon
1969 Executive 4dr Sedan
1969 Bonnie Cvt
1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them)
1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt)
1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them)
1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model)
  #25  
Old 09-08-2020, 06:15 PM
north's Avatar
north north is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,388
Default

This 68 has power windows, power locks didn't appear on A bodies until 69. By the tranny cooling lines it is an automatic. The owner would surely have appreciated the body shop throwing those front wheels-tires onto the ivory back seat.

__________________
My Break Away Squad
1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops)
1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt)
1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon
1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop)
1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop)
1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon
1969 Executive 4dr Sedan
1969 Bonnie Cvt
1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them)
1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt)
1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them)
1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model)
  #26  
Old 09-08-2020, 06:16 PM
north's Avatar
north north is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,388
Default

The only other way to get that 4 blade fan on a GTO was the 2bbl engine without AC.

__________________
My Break Away Squad
1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops)
1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt)
1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon
1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop)
1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop)
1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon
1969 Executive 4dr Sedan
1969 Bonnie Cvt
1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them)
1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt)
1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them)
1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model)
  #27  
Old 09-08-2020, 06:39 PM
north's Avatar
north north is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,388
Default

btw, I wonder if this car could be tracked down by PHS docs? studying the pics I think you can narrow it down quite a bit... 1968 GTO hardtop, RA1, Automatic, power drum brakes, power steering, not sure but looks like Verdoro, obviously has ivory buckets also seems to not have a Cordova top. Car also has power windows, RII wheels, white line tires (redline was standard), remote mirror, soft ray windshield (cant tell side windows), hideaways. No power antenna, but it has an AM radio (FM radios had a capacitor on the heater blower) no cornering lamps, no hood tach, no underhood lamp, looks like it has the standard wheel. I think the 68 RA1 production with an automatic was in the 100-150 range, if you could narrow it down by these specific options and colors it might come down to one car?

__________________
My Break Away Squad
1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops)
1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt)
1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon
1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop)
1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop)
1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon
1969 Executive 4dr Sedan
1969 Bonnie Cvt
1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them)
1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt)
1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them)
1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model)
  #28  
Old 09-08-2020, 09:08 PM
PurelyGTO68 PurelyGTO68 is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 792
Default

Very helpful. Thanks.
Looks like Pontiac called the color of the stripes and decals "Cameo Ivory" per page 293 from the Book of Information. The preceding page shows the paint numbers for Cameo Ivory so I should be able to get a match.

There is a helpful diagram for decal and stripe placement on page 320 so I could use that as a guide. Will look for NOS decals and go from there. I could make my own if I can have a sample to match the font. My guess is the reproduction decals failed to account for the curvature of the quarter panel but that is just a guess at this point. I would have to see an NOS and reproduction decal side by side to make that determination.

Interesting note on page 320....it refers to the decal color as "white". Obviously means ivory but it's interesting just the same. Note the part number 9788233.

Now I know what I need. The hunt is on!
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20200908_175355.jpg
Views:	67
Size:	57.8 KB
ID:	549090   Click image for larger version

Name:	20200908_175352.jpg
Views:	61
Size:	49.1 KB
ID:	549091   Click image for larger version

Name:	20200908_175511.jpg
Views:	59
Size:	54.3 KB
ID:	549092  

  #29  
Old 09-09-2020, 06:06 AM
68ragtop's Avatar
68ragtop 68ragtop is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Green Bay, Wisconsin
Posts: 4,323
Default

I haven't seen those service book pics in a while.

Looking even closer, did you guys notice the left front muffler clamp is the same color as the head pipes? Sure looks like its possible they were never treated with anything at all and its possibly rust. Against the floor and frame of the car they appear they could be that brownish shade and not black., very similar to the way the steering box looks against the frame on the front end picture?

Not saying thats what it is, but let yourself believe that for a moment & then look again at the pictures. Given they way these were built back then, Sure Seems very possible & more of a hassle to paint them black? The car definitely has some miles on it.

Just a thought.

__________________

68 GTO 4-spd Convertible
78 S/E Trans am L78, WS6 Auto
78 S/E Trans am W72, WS6 Auto
79 10th aniv W72 Trans am
80 Indy pace car Trans am
89 Trans am GTA
  #30  
Old 09-09-2020, 04:41 PM
PurelyGTO68 PurelyGTO68 is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 792
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 68ragtop View Post
I haven't seen those service book pics in a while.

Looking even closer, did you guys notice the left front muffler clamp is the same color as the head pipes? Sure looks like its possible they were never treated with anything at all and its possibly rust. Against the floor and frame of the car they appear they could be that brownish shade and not black., very similar to the way the steering box looks against the frame on the front end picture?

Not saying thats what it is, but let yourself believe that for a moment & then look again at the pictures. Given they way these were built back then, Sure Seems very possible & more of a hassle to paint them black? The car definitely has some miles on it.

Just a thought.
I also noticed the clamp looked black.
I was searching Ebay last night and came across some NOS head pipes for sale. All black. He had 2 of them for sale...RH side I think. They included the flange clamps and you could barely make out the flattened portion at the crossmember area. The pipes were stored up in the rafters so it was hard to see but you could still make out the image. Let me see if I can swipe the photo and post here....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/114394297449

The ad says the part number is stamped into the pipes. That is pretty cool....
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot_20200909-133415_eBay.jpg
Views:	113
Size:	44.6 KB
ID:	549133  

  #31  
Old 09-10-2020, 07:36 AM
ddcrank ddcrank is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Northern Wisconsin
Posts: 94
Default

Gardner exhaust for me also. perfect fit and it sounds great. Building the car for concourse so went with what everyone was saying was the best and it sure payed off
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20180616_070802.jpg
Views:	123
Size:	93.0 KB
ID:	549158   Click image for larger version

Name:	20180616_070957.jpg
Views:	108
Size:	98.1 KB
ID:	549159  

  #32  
Old 09-11-2020, 12:03 AM
north's Avatar
north north is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,388
Default

Another constructive comment for Gardner to tweak is the resonators on 69 automatic GTO’s is that they are not quite right. The factory resonators have the pipeS set right at the bottom of the resonator can but the Gardner version has the pipes centered. The reason GM did this is evident, by having the pipe set low in the can the resonator tucks more out of sight up into the quarter.

They do great work so this is just pointing out how they could be even more accurate. I’ve got 6 of their beer glasses in my kitchen, so I’m a loyal client I guess!

__________________
My Break Away Squad
1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops)
1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt)
1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon
1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop)
1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop)
1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon
1969 Executive 4dr Sedan
1969 Bonnie Cvt
1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them)
1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt)
1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them)
1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model)
  #33  
Old 09-11-2020, 12:37 PM
68pongto's Avatar
68pongto 68pongto is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 651
Default

While we're here on the topic of Gardner exhaust systems, I plan on running them on my Ram Air cars. The Ram Air I is a 4-speed car, so I know that should be pretty straight forward. But the Ram Air II is an automatic. Does anyone know if a RA II automatic car would have still used the tuner pipe on the rear tailpipes?

  #34  
Old 09-11-2020, 02:00 PM
north's Avatar
north north is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,388
Default

I’m not aware of the 68 systems but it’s easily determined by a look at the illustration section of the MPC.

As for 69 there are 4 possible exhaust systems but with only two different individual choices for any of the main components

Head pipes are determined by engine:
265 and 350 horse use same 2” pipes that bolt to standard manifolds with stamped flanges. 366 and 370 horse use 2 1/4” pipes that bolt to Hi performance manifolds with cast flanges.

Mufflers are same on all 69 GTO’s with one muffler longer than the other (all 2 1/4” head and tailpipes are reduced at the fitting so all cars can use the same mufflers).

Tailpipes are determined by transmission:
Manual transmissions all use 2 1/4” straight tailpipes. Automatic transmissions all use 2” Two piece tailpipes with the back end pipes incorporating canister resonators.

This produces four possible combinations

__________________
My Break Away Squad
1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops)
1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt)
1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon
1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop)
1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop)
1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon
1969 Executive 4dr Sedan
1969 Bonnie Cvt
1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them)
1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt)
1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them)
1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model)
  #35  
Old 09-11-2020, 03:48 PM
PurelyGTO68 PurelyGTO68 is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 792
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 68pongto View Post
While we're here on the topic of Gardner exhaust systems, I plan on running them on my Ram Air cars. The Ram Air I is a 4-speed car, so I know that should be pretty straight forward. But the Ram Air II is an automatic. Does anyone know if a RA II automatic car would have still used the tuner pipe on the rear tailpipes?
I think so. I will check my books this weekend and see if I can find anything on that for you. The Auto deuce would have a different cam than the manual version so that would also carry over to the exhaust I am pretty sure....but I will check and let you know.

  #36  
Old 09-12-2020, 10:06 PM
PurelyGTO68 PurelyGTO68 is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 792
Default

I was in the area yesterday so I swung by Phoenix Graphix and picked up some decals. Will keep my eye out for a NOS set but this will get me by for the car show season which is starting in October.

Looks okay to me.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20200912_162946.jpg
Views:	88
Size:	67.2 KB
ID:	549364   Click image for larger version

Name:	20200912_172740.jpg
Views:	91
Size:	67.6 KB
ID:	549365   Click image for larger version

Name:	20200912_172619.jpg
Views:	91
Size:	69.3 KB
ID:	549366   Click image for larger version

Name:	20200912_172551.jpg
Views:	84
Size:	80.2 KB
ID:	549367   Click image for larger version

Name:	20200912_172902.jpg
Views:	81
Size:	76.8 KB
ID:	549368  


  #37  
Old 09-13-2020, 06:58 AM
68ragtop's Avatar
68ragtop 68ragtop is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Green Bay, Wisconsin
Posts: 4,323
Default

Looks great!

That appears to be the same position I settled on. I had jumped in on a thread last november when installing mine & there were a lot of original pics showing the variations of how there were applied. I had picked up some NOS decals & was worried they would be garbage because they were so old the glue sealing the paper sleeves dried up. But they turned out to be just fine. I little reside I had to remove after from the transfer paper but that was it.

I wonder if there is something that is a universal white that all of us have were I could photograph next to mine to see how off white or ivory they really are? To be honest, they look a lot more towards white than cameo ivory. Sheet of std printer paper?

__________________

68 GTO 4-spd Convertible
78 S/E Trans am L78, WS6 Auto
78 S/E Trans am W72, WS6 Auto
79 10th aniv W72 Trans am
80 Indy pace car Trans am
89 Trans am GTA
  #38  
Old 09-13-2020, 11:58 AM
PurelyGTO68 PurelyGTO68 is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 792
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 68ragtop View Post
Looks great!

That appears to be the same position I settled on. I had jumped in on a thread last november when installing mine & there were a lot of original pics showing the variations of how there were applied. I had picked up some NOS decals & was worried they would be garbage because they were so old the glue sealing the paper sleeves dried up. But they turned out to be just fine. I little reside I had to remove after from the transfer paper but that was it.

I wonder if there is something that is a universal white that all of us have were I could photograph next to mine to see how off white or ivory they really are? To be honest, they look a lot more towards white than cameo ivory. Sheet of std printer paper?
I can send you the spare decal so you can compare to your NOS for color. The set I bought came with three decals.....I guess just in case I messed up one set? PM me your address and I will drop it in the mail. Would love to see the color differences.

  #39  
Old 09-13-2020, 12:22 PM
68ragtop's Avatar
68ragtop 68ragtop is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Green Bay, Wisconsin
Posts: 4,323
Default

Sure, I could do that & send it back to you. Would be interesting to see.
Could also find out if they are dimensioned the same as well.

__________________

68 GTO 4-spd Convertible
78 S/E Trans am L78, WS6 Auto
78 S/E Trans am W72, WS6 Auto
79 10th aniv W72 Trans am
80 Indy pace car Trans am
89 Trans am GTA
  #40  
Old 09-20-2020, 09:30 AM
68ragtop's Avatar
68ragtop 68ragtop is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Green Bay, Wisconsin
Posts: 4,323
Default

I received PurleyGTO68's decal & compared it to the NOS one I installed on my car last fall. Its quite impressively similar in many ways.

In size, it measures the same overall in height & width. could be slightly different, but we would be talking under a 32nd of an inch if anything at all.
The width of the outlines also seem to be the same & vary from thin to thicker in the same places on each letter with the same serif's on the corners.

Differences are very subtle. The most noticeable is the "T" on the repro is narrower as well as the center of the "O" Original measures 2-1/2" across & the repro is a smidge narrower at 2-7/16" that is probably the only thing that can be visually seen when looking at them & part of that could be placebo effect, But they would never be side by side on a car, so nobody is going to see this difference or know it unless they actually measure it. The center of the "O" is also 1/16" smaller, but can not be visually noticed like the "T" The "G" I could not find a difference at all.

The Original material is a bit thicker, but its not much, & again not something someone would ever notice. When I installed my NOS decals, I did notice the adhesive side of the decals were gray in color. I have no idea why, or if that is just part of the adhesive systems from back then?

The Color: Interestingly, the color is very, very close to the same. This is where I was expecting a big difference & there just is not. the original is a tiny bit more to the ivory side, but boy it is not much at all. In fact if somebody asked me what color the decals are I would just call them white & questioned the cameo ivory that they are listed as.

Playing the devil advocate on the color though, I do think these decals could get a little darker over time & exposed to UV rays? Its also extremely possible they changed from GM as the replacement parts at the dealer after 1968 might have changed? That would not surprise me too much. We have all seen that. My NOS decals were very old though. so much so that the glue that held the flaps closed on the sleeves had tried up completely. I was really worried they would be garbage & not stick to the car, but they worked out just fine. A lot of the adhesive from the transfer tape did stay on the surface of the decals one installed & I had to use mineral sprits on a cuetip to get it off. otherwise I was more than happy with them.

Thats my report, to the best I can describe them

.





Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1157.jpg
Views:	386
Size:	35.6 KB
ID:	549962   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1158.jpg
Views:	371
Size:	35.1 KB
ID:	549963   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1165.jpg
Views:	375
Size:	35.2 KB
ID:	549964  

__________________

68 GTO 4-spd Convertible
78 S/E Trans am L78, WS6 Auto
78 S/E Trans am W72, WS6 Auto
79 10th aniv W72 Trans am
80 Indy pace car Trans am
89 Trans am GTA
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:58 AM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017