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Old 10-30-2019, 08:10 PM
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Ive considered doing my palladium silver gto in single stage on the next refresh but havent been able to find much on shooting single stage metallics. The factory did it, so mustnt be too hard, right?
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Yeah, all ive been able to find is that it is very difficult. Always wondered how they did it.

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Old 10-31-2019, 01:53 AM
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I know thousands of body shops in the 70's did SS metallics ... so while it might not be easy, it is possible. I've watched it being done .... other than a guy that is good with the gun I didn't see any super duper secret tricks.... well, other than being a talented guy that had painted hundreds of cars. I certainly don't think they had robots doing it in the 60's at the factory.

I think the key is that most people these days would not be happy with a 60's factory quality metallic paint job. If you want 90's quality with 60's technique and materials ... probably not going to happen very easily.

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Old 10-31-2019, 02:52 AM
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'60s factory metallic

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Old 10-31-2019, 04:32 AM
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IMPOSSIBLE ... it can't be done

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Old 10-31-2019, 05:53 PM
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Only a Nitrocellulose Lacquer finish is truly a 100% concourse "correct" restoration on a GM vehicle of that era.

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Only a Nitrocellulose Lacquer finish is truly a 100% concourse "correct" restoration on a GM vehicle of that era.
That’s what I’ve been told....And only the Pebble Beach Show ,is a stickler for correct finishes being Lacquer.A friend of mine works on a Rich guys collection of over 300 vehicles ....and all high dollar cars....Dusenburgs to Hemi Cudas and everything in between.....But is not a Pontiac guy.

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Old 10-31-2019, 09:42 PM
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Nitrocellulose lacquer would be correct for 1938. In 1968 GM was spraying acrylic lacquer.

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Yep, that's what I thought, when I was buying "OEM" paint in the early 70's it was acrylic lacquer.

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Old 11-01-2019, 09:37 AM
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Nitrocellulose lacquer would be correct for 1938. In 1968 GM was spraying acrylic lacquer.
In the early 60s, other divisions bragged about it on their data plates .
Fisher Body called it "the exclusive extra in all General Motors cars".


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Nothing like a freshly polished Black Acrylic Lacquer paint job. Looks a mile deep and wet. Easy to spray, easy to repair, fast to dry. Paint in the garage and only get dust overspray. Single stage is harder to spray with out runs or orange peel, takes longer to dry, and is hard to repair and you get sticky overspray everywhere. BC/CC is easy to spray the base but the clear is messy and can kill you. Overspray is a night mare and the paint looks shiny fake with no depth.
Cost wise single stage is the cheapest then lacquer and then BC/CC.
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Black base/clear.
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Old 11-01-2019, 09:18 PM
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Mike, time to clean out that cabinet! While you're at it, go ahead and get rid of that gallon can of red DuPont compound and yellow tube of Nitro-Stan glazing putty.
The Sata is nice, but can we see the Binks #7 you were shooting that stuff with?

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Mike, time to clean out that cabinet! While you're at it, go ahead and get rid of that gallon can of red DuPont compound and yellow tube of Nitro-Stan glazing putty.
The Sata is nice, but can we see the Binks #7 you were shooting that stuff with?
Steve.....was a Devilbiss with a 43 cap....and the old 30 cap for the RM Super Max....Centauri...Ditzler.... and those special Dulux jobs..lol

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Old 11-01-2019, 09:40 PM
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Dulux brings about bad memories for me. It was 1976, and the first "old car" that I restored was a yellow '56 T-Bird. The painter ruined it by spraying it in a cold shop on a snowy winter day with Dulux. I hope I never have to smell that stuff again.

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Dulux brings about bad memories for me. It was 1976, and the first "old car" that I restored was a yellow '56 T-Bird. The painter ruined it by spraying it in a cold shop on a snowy winter day with Dulux. I hope I never have to smell that stuff again.
Did you help him pull the runs off....with 2 inch tape...and keep spraying...LMAO ! Not to mention your eyelashes sticking together.....

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Old 11-01-2019, 10:07 PM
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No, it was a weekend and I wasn't there. Good thing I guess. And yes, there was yellow paint on the floor. I was SO pi..ed!

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Old 11-03-2019, 05:23 AM
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Although I prefer SS solid colors ... is it just me, or do I remember just a tad too much humidity making things a mess?

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Old 11-03-2019, 02:44 PM
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High humidity would cause a paint job to look hazy and milky ("blush"). It could happen with enamels, but lacquers were worse about it. Sand and re-shoot was about the only fix.

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