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Old 11-21-2020, 09:53 PM
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Hello, I just purchased my first big Pontiac, a 63 Bonneville Safari. It will be an on-going project, and I suspect this is the first of many question posts.
Details of my car from the trim tag - Paint - WWA-Nocturne Blue Trim - 279 ACC - Spec Buil 161. PHS shows 06B/C motor, 4-spd w/buckets and console. 8-lugs have been added somewhere along the line. I will start with these questions:
1. What is the correct color for the dash pad and metal top? It has a replacement from a red car.
2. Are the A-pillar garnish moldings (metal) specific to the wagon? The drivers side molding is missing.
3. The 4-speed shifter is not original and does not fit well. Are there other aftermarket options, or do I need to find an original?
4. Are the PUI bucket seat covers two-tone blue like the originals?
Thanks in advance and I look forward to gaining much knowledge on this site!

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Old 11-21-2020, 09:57 PM
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Hello, I just purchased my first big Pontiac, a 63 Bonneville Safari. It will be an on-going project, and I suspect this is the first of many question posts.

Details of my car from the trim tag - Paint - WWA-Nocturne Blue Trim - 279 ACC - Spec Buil 161. PHS shows 06B/C motor, 4-spd w/buckets and console. 8-lugs have been added somewhere along the line. I will start with these questions:

1. What is the correct color for the dash pad and metal top? It has a replacement from a red car.

2. Are the A-pillar garnish moldings (metal) specific to the wagon? The drivers side molding is missing.

3. The 4-speed shifter is not original and does not fit well. Are there other aftermarket options, or do I need to find an original?

4. Are the PUI bucket seat covers two-tone blue like the originals?

Thanks in advance and I look forward to gaining much knowledge on this site!
Guessing you bought from a guy named John ....? I remember talking to him about the car.
I have a 63 Bonne SW as well. Bucket seats with an automatic.

Welcome to the forum.

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Old 11-21-2020, 10:05 PM
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Hello, I just purchased my first big Pontiac, a 63 Bonneville Safari. It will be an on-going project, and I suspect this is the first of many question posts.

Details of my car from the trim tag - Paint - WWA-Nocturne Blue Trim - 279 ACC - Spec Buil 161. PHS shows 06B/C motor, 4-spd w/buckets and console. 8-lugs have been added somewhere along the line. I will start with these questions:

1. What is the correct color for the dash pad and metal top? It has a replacement from a red car.

2. Are the A-pillar garnish moldings (metal) specific to the wagon? The drivers side molding is missing.

3. The 4-speed shifter is not original and does not fit well. Are there other aftermarket options, or do I need to find an original?

4. Are the PUI bucket seat covers two-tone blue like the originals?

Thanks in advance and I look forward to gaining much knowledge on this site!
Answering some of your questions...
Metal moldings you are asking about are the same in any GM wagon 62-64 ...I think ...61 too maybe.
Have to look at some references for your dash question.
The shifter for a T 10 4 speed is not an aftermarket item that I know of ( correct me if wrong someone).


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Old 11-21-2020, 10:06 PM
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Thanks for the welcome! I bought it from the SF Bay area, from a fellow named Charlie. I have seen your car in my forum searches and hope to have my interior up to your standard some day. Any advice on the seat covers?

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Thanks for the welcome! I bought it from the SF Bay area, from a fellow named Charlie. I have seen your car in my forum searches and hope to have my interior up to your standard some day. Any advice on the seat covers?
I had mine redone by a local upholstery guy. Did a good match. Not sure about the PUI stuff.
Charlie....my bad ...thats right. John stuck in my head for some reason.

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Welcome,, any pics ?
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Old 11-21-2020, 10:24 PM
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Thanks for the welcome! I bought it from the SF Bay area, from a fellow named Charlie. I have seen your car in my forum searches and hope to have my interior up to your standard some day. Any advice on the seat covers?
I'll get you the name of a really good 4 speed shifter guy from KY ...will have the correct shifter for you. Great manual transmission builder.

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Old 11-21-2020, 10:32 PM
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Is this the seller on Ebay with a 62 4-spd shifter? His location is KY.

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Old 11-21-2020, 10:34 PM
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Welcome,, any pics ?
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Only one pic so far, just got it in the garage this week!
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Old 11-21-2020, 10:56 PM
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Only one pic so far, just got it in the garage this week!
Great looking wagon....love that color. Glad it went to someone now on this network.
Lots of good people and friends on PY....you'll find the info you need here James. :-)

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Old 11-22-2020, 08:22 AM
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Only one pic so far, just got it in the garage this week!
Here is the info for 4 speed trans guy:
Dennis Maroudas DME Inc.
625 Forest Hills Road
Forest Hills, KY 41527
606-237-6648

DMELLC@SUDDENLINK.NET

Can answer all your tranny/shifter questions. Really good guy.

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Old 11-22-2020, 05:14 PM
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These documents wouldn't happen to be for any of you guys cars? 63 Bonny Vista sold in Madera CA. Owners manual, protector plate and window sticker.
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Where's the protector plate?



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Nice looking Bonnevile

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Its inside the small booklet. I can post a pic of it if you want.

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Old 11-22-2020, 10:23 PM
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These documents wouldn't happen to be for any of you guys cars? 63 Bonny Vista sold in Madera CA. Owners manual, protector plate and window sticker.
Not for mine, thanks for checking,
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Old 11-23-2020, 08:15 AM
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Welcome to the class of '63 jamesq. That's an awesome find. Cool color and a stick too. Be sure to post as you progress. My Cat Safari is a power bench so the shifter is the longer, spaghetti shifter handle. Dennis at DME is the guy. Rebuilt my T-10 and helped with various other parts.


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Old 11-23-2020, 09:58 PM
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Thanks to you and Bruce both for the help with the 4-speed stick. I will give them a call.
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Old 11-24-2020, 02:39 AM
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I'd be surprised if PUI had two tone interior seat covers. You may have to go through a company in Washington state, SMS Auto Fabrics. Not cheap but well known for quality and correctness.
https://smsautofabrics.com/

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Old 11-24-2020, 10:12 AM
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Agree, Greg. Also, SMS not known for quick turnaround. But they do ... have the seats.... (materials)

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