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Old 11-05-2019, 12:24 AM
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Default Refitting the 71.

Since the 71 garnered no interest in sales, I decided to keep it and throw a bunch of time and money at it. For those who are not familiar, it is a late June 71 Pontiac build Lemans Sport convertible, factory 400/400 car.

I was always messing with it, currently it is:

#26 Lucy Blue with blue interior and black top
428 with 85cc KRE heads and 2801 cam, Crosswind intake, Cliff Q-Jet
AutoGear M22Z rockcrusher with Peter Serio Hurst shifter
2.93 TruTrac in a 8.5" out of a 71 Cutlass
4 wheels disc, Savitske SC2 front stuff, Konis, 71 442 springs

It will get new Lucy blue paint, the frame stripped and checked for cracks, rewelded and painted. Edelbrock Port FI with in tank pump, reworked rear sway bar, Delphi steering box and Sport wheel along with the dash pad refurbished.

I am torn on the wheels - they are vintage Centerline AutoDrags - strong but very light. Thinking about 17" Bandits but hear they are quite heavy.

This is what it looked like a few years back:



and the now pic...



Noted several discrepancies, ie one side had phillips srews holding the rear courtesy harness, the other hex - missing captured nut for the folding top.

This rubber shim on the body mount was interesting - wonder if the body or the frame is out of spec?



I am sure we will find more interesting thing as I go along!

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Old 11-05-2019, 07:31 AM
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Fun car to have fun with!

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Old 11-05-2019, 10:22 PM
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That reminds me of my 72 I'm finishing. I wish I would have had a nice lift like that though. I had to weld/bolt a bunch of supports so I wouldn't bend mine.

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Old 11-06-2019, 09:54 AM
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Wow! Nice rig - or will be even better when you're finished. Looking at your first picture, I can't help but imagine a set of 17" rally II wheels. With the EFI, it'll be a trouble-free elegant cruiser with the muscle to back it up. Hope you post more pics as things progress. Good luck!

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Old 11-07-2019, 10:14 AM
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Default another idea on wheel/tire

Scarebird,
No intent on hijacking your thread....Just wanted to give you another idea on wheel/tire selection.

Wheel Vintiques 15x8 on all four corners.
BFG Radials--Front 245/60R15....Back 255/60R15
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Old 11-07-2019, 01:43 PM
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Are you happy with the cam, or does it feel small?

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Old 11-09-2019, 12:42 AM
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It no doubt is a bit small for some here - but is the equivalent of the 068 unit.

The WV's look nice, but If i were to change I would run bigger diameter-wise, hence the Bandit 17's.




No way in hell would I ever run BFG's again; other far superior tires made for less $ than those bricks.

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Old 11-10-2019, 08:16 PM
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Yup, BFG are an inferior tire.

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Painter texted me noting that the shop will not be ready for my car till around the new year. mnnh.

I guess this is better than being locked up for a year. His shop is small so he has to turn cars before accepting new work.

I am not sure if I am going to keep the rocker trim - it always looked tacked on to me, Thinking of welding up the mount holes and keeping it body color:



sorry for the MS Paint 'shop.

I would love to find a 72 GTO style extractor to work into the lower fender to replace the dummy louvers...
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:32 PM
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I went through this on my 70 GTO and ended up keeping it. It looks good either way.

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Old 11-25-2019, 07:30 PM
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I went through this on my 70 GTO and ended up keeping it. It looks good either way.
The more I reflect on it I would tend to agree. I noted that the trim pieces took a beating - better them than the rocker itself. Ames has a repop kit very reasonably priced

GM lower fender rot here and accounted for, but just one side.





Inside of the cowl - very minor corrosion



floor pans seem in good shape




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Old 11-25-2019, 07:48 PM
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To be fair I had to look at the pics of my car to see if it ended up with the rocker molding. It doesn’t really change the look of the car that much either way.

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Old 11-28-2019, 09:02 AM
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I have a set of the 72 fender extractors in excellent condition if interested contact me.
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Thanks Pete.

One lesson here - paint rust converter on AFTER welding in patches. Welding 22 gauge is bad enough without the extra contamination goodness!


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Nice car Scarebird glad to see you enjoy it some more. Going back to your first post...Not a "A" body but...

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I have seen your beautiful TA before, it definitely make a case the the U109's! One thing about the 225-70-15's is how mushy they are compare to larger rims - even the 16's on my TA are quite crisp in comparison.

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Made an adapter cradle to mount the body tub to the trailer for hauling to the painters. Simple 2 x 2 x 3/16 angle iron allowed this to occur.

Flying high!



Simple but effective...



This will replace the Corporate 10 bolt.



Tomorrow will involve welding up holes in the body that should not be there.
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That is quite the trailer!!

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It should be enough to handle the task (crosses fingers).

Today was weld up the various holes that won't be needed day. And fab up a couple of braces from 7/8" Sch 40 to fit from the cowl to just past the door jamb. Tomorrow will be loading up the combo up on a forklift so I can wash the bottom of the body tub. I won't go crazy as this will be a driver and will see weather in the future - but it will be nice to get some of the mung off from the years.

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I was trying to sort out how to lift the trailer/tub combo safely.
I needed 5 feet of reach, forks are only 4 feet. I cut a couple of 4x4's to six feet and duct taped the nose of the forks (to limit side to side action) and strapped the rears (under tension).



I lifted her up; she whimpered a bit going up - a shakey go at best.



Scrubbing was not as successful as I would have hoped; I brought a nylon brush and unlike natural fibers they don't hold the water/SuperClean mix well at all. Quite a bit was scrubbed off, enough to reveal the the "undercoating" was really just road grime and tar. This task would be better accomplished on a rotisserie hands down. I may take a second shot tomorrow with a pressure washer if I can find the damn wand...

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