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The tires are G78 WW FG
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I wonder if anyone could chime in on how many gp's were built with powerflow ventilation? I have never seen or heard of another gp with it. I have seen it in maybe 2 GTOs ever. I didn't even realize this car had it until around a month after I bought it.
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I've never seen a 69 GP with G70 tires but they were offered. At $98 versus the already pricey $66 polyglass G78 its not surprising. You could probably buy a set of G70's outright for $98 and still have the g78's that came on the car standard.
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops) 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop) 1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop) 1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon 1969 Executive 4dr Sedan 1969 Bonnie Cvt 1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them) 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them) 1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model) |
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Haven't been on here for quite some time - what a great find!
I have a PHS on a 69 SJ that was bought new in Quebec and is now in Saskatchewan. At least on the PHS, the optional trunk mat is listed. I am keeping track of the car because it is very complete, but just a high-option SJ with the std. 428. (Lacks a reclining RH seat, but I have one!) North - my 69 J 428 HO was ordered new by a guy that raced Alfa Romeos - he ordered G70x14 WWs (and auto level control - I don't know why - just get an SJ at that point!) I've seen Powerflow Ventilation added to a 69 GP, but never on a PHS. On the SR replacement engine - there were 119 GPs built in 69 with the code WL block for the 428 HO / manual transmission combination, but I've also seen a list of the number of blocks built - with a number of 142 made. Am curious - does the SR 428 HO have a code WL on it? Love the red interior! |
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Joegpho,
Some early production SJ’s were built as J’s with all the SJ options (428, auto level, fiberglass tires, PDB, lighting group and gauge package). Apparently the SJ emblems were in short supply so the cars were built that way and then the dealers added the emblems after. The SJ actually provided a discount over the cost of the individually ordered options. What color scheme was your car?
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops) 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop) 1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop) 1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon 1969 Executive 4dr Sedan 1969 Bonnie Cvt 1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them) 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them) 1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model) |
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It does not have the WL code stamped on it, just a SR stamped code. If I recall, there was a number stamped next to it as well
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I parted a 4speed HO about 20 years ago, local rot no but parts of it lives on in other cars. It was matador red, parchment top and guts. Low option car, had an M21 and 3.90.
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops) 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop) 1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop) 1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon 1969 Executive 4dr Sedan 1969 Bonnie Cvt 1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them) 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them) 1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model) |
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typo
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops) 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop) 1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop) 1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon 1969 Executive 4dr Sedan 1969 Bonnie Cvt 1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them) 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them) 1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model) |
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Did it have ps or a radio? I have seen one 69 gp j 400 bench seat ordered with no radio
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North, do you have the PHS or the exact option load on this car?
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Rich Johns Owner/Operator of Pure Stock Auto Restorations Inc. www.purestockauto.com 1969 GTO Judge Ram Air IV M21 4 speed 3:90 1970 GTO Judge Ram Air III M21 4 speed 3:90 Oshawa Built 1970 GSX Stage 1 M21 4 Speed 3.64 # 67 of 678 Original Paint 1970 GSX Stage 1 Auto 3.64 # 603 of 678 12.44@109.73 mph 2011 Buick GS Nats Pure Stock, 12.71@110.64 mph PSMCDR 2011 1970 GS Stage 1 Convertible Auto 3:64 12.71@109.15 mph PSMCDR 2009 1970 GS 455 M21 4 Speed 3.42 1987 GN Astro Roof |
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No I didn’t keep it but I had the original window sticker at the time.
I meant low option by GP standards, it had steering, brakes, am etc but no power interior options or air etc. The owner had a 69 2+2 convertible Canadian big car that was the same color scheme with a 427-390 horse 4 speed car that was also untouched but rotten. I think he won some lottery in 69 and bought both cars new.
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops) 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop) 1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop) 1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon 1969 Executive 4dr Sedan 1969 Bonnie Cvt 1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them) 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them) 1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model) |
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Here's another one for you, John...
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Thanks! Once I saw it I had to have it. It would have probably been parted out if I didn't rescue it. It's a bucket list car for me as I grew up in a 69 SJ that my dad still has. I will do a very nice restoration on it once I gather the parts needed.
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I have an invoice for a 1969 Grand Prix SJ with 31 options that was ordered with Instant-Aire and trunk mat, and the MSRP was $6296.16, but this wasn't the highest priced GP I've seen. I have one that came in at $6423.21 and only had 24 options, including special paint Nocturne Blue. I've only seen one 69 GP that came in under $5,000 MSRP. Mike
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1959-1980 Pontiac Window Sticker Reproductions : http://www.pontiacwindowstickers.com My Bio: I am currently writing articles for POCI's Smoke Signals magazine and enjoy promoting and discussing the history of the Pontiac Motor Division. |
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Is that around 340 for Grand Prix, or all Pontiac models?
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Just the Grand Prix models.
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1959-1980 Pontiac Window Sticker Reproductions : http://www.pontiacwindowstickers.com My Bio: I am currently writing articles for POCI's Smoke Signals magazine and enjoy promoting and discussing the history of the Pontiac Motor Division. |
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Oh thanks. Very interesting!
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Thanks, economy axle, haven’t seen one on a GP before,
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (Base, 350 & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA Hardtops) 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr Hardtop and a Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari 2 seat Wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 Hardtops & Judge Hardtop) 1969 Catalina (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr hardtop) 1969 Ventura 2 Seat Wagon 1969 Executive 4dr Sedan 1969 Bonnie Cvt 1969 Bonnie 3 Seat Wagon (2 of them) 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr Hardtop & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix SJ (2 of them) 1969 2+2 2dr Hardtop (Canadian model) |
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My first '69 SJ that I bought in 1982 had that too, 2.93 ratio...
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