[tempest1964]

This is very late and not the best quality. You can barely make out the slot. Best I have...

[Tom Vaught]

Just image John Vs right fender with original Red paint on it and you have my fender.
Too Dam* cold outside to go into the garage and take a picture because you don't believe me, Chief.
John V will though, and that is all I care about.

Tom V.

[Chief of the 60's]

Figures You are correct about one thing though, I do not believe it and I am sure no one else who has owned these cars does either.

[tempest1964]

Greg, there’s no reason to be soo argumentative. You seem like a decent guy and you’ve helped me out with parts for my car, but damnit man, sometimes it just seems like you pick arguments on this forum. And no, I’m not going to take up knitting. Lol.
Tom, what color of red are you going with?

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by Chief of the 60's

Figures You are correct about one thing though, I do not believe it and I am sure no one else who has owned these cars does either.

Tom and I have had many disagreements on this board in the past.

I believe Tom.

Which means that once again, you are wrong.

[Tom Vaught]

Yes, He is wrong, as usual, Champ

Here are the pictures. Do you see a slot in the fender Chief? I see a screw hole.

Tom V.

And Champ, despite the many discussions we have had, I also know that you really know your stuff.
I also know that Chief of the 60s on the other hand, as you posted, is wrong a lot on GTO stuff and basic
Pontiac information. Must be that hanging around with the Chebby Guys too much or maybe He has owned a lot
of cars without really getting to know the parts..

Second picture clearly shows the paint chip that came off when I removed the Rocker Molding.
Third Picture you can easily see the Screw Attachment Hole in the Fender.

[Chief of the 60's]

LOL! Father & son BS.

Oh, and that looks like a fender that has been mudded up but I'm sure you and you son will claim its not.

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by tempest1964

Greg, there’s no reason to be soo argumentative. You seem like a decent guy and you’ve helped me out with parts for my car, but damnit man, sometimes it just seems like you pick arguments on this forum. And no, I’m not going to take up knitting. Lol.
Tom, what color of red are you going with?

The car is Grenadier Red, you can see the stress cranks showing at the bottom of the doors but the rest of the paint is in really good shape considering the age and I am not going to paint it.

Tom V.

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by Chief of the 60's

LOL! Father & son BS.

Could not admit that you were wrong could you Chief of the 60s.
Not surprising but the other guys know you are wrong A LOT, LOL!

Tom V.

Anyone understand what that Father and Son BS he posted is all about?

[Chief of the 60's]

Originally Posted by tempest1964

Greg, there’s no reason to be soo argumentative.

Tony, its not a matter of being argumentative, its a matter of standing your ground when you know you are correct and a couple here loose sleep are night trying to prove me wrong to their buddies on here.

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

Anyone understand what that Father and Son BS he posted is all about?

I think she is trying to insult us.

It's not working...

[Chief of the 60's]

Originally Posted by The Chump

I think she is trying to insult us.

It's not working...

If I was "trying" to insult, I would have done something like this. But I did not and know why you chimed in.

There is only one reason why this dead thread was brought back from the dead. It is because Tom V. is stirring up s hit and you are only running with it because its me. BRAVO!

The fact still stands, I have owned the cars, I have owned NOS fenders, others here have owned the cars and perhaps the parts and all those in the know come to the same conclusion and that is that the fenders with rocker mouldings had a slot for a plastic clip that a rocker moulding retaining screw screws into. Anything less is not correct and has been replaced or was a rot can that was repaired and mudded up.

[Tom Vaught]

Actually Chief of the 60s, I replied because John V posted that his car had an original fender with a screw hole attachment. He posted his fender picture.
Do not believe that he was doing anything but posting his cars original fender.

So then I read the thread and see that you are bad-mouthing John V.
Now John V has provide vast amounts of info to members on the 1964 A-Body vehicles.
So I made a post and said that My Fender also has the Screw Attachment like John V's vehicle. Nothing more. But you get on the thread and run your mouth about me possibly making a false post. So I took a few pictures today and guess what, my car fender matches John V's fender description. Just like I posted earlier.

So now you are butt hurt after I posted my photos, Champ agrees with me, AND OTHERS SAID YOU WERE JUST STIRRING THE CHIT, AS USUAL. Look in the mirror, dude.

And by the way my fenders were never rot cans. Far from it. Why don't you go back and play in the race section sucking up to little George.

Tom V.

[Dick Boneske]

All four of the '64 GTO's I've owned had a rectangular hole in the front fender to accept a plastic "nut" for the sheet metal screw attaching the front of the rocker trim. I've attached some pictures, including one of a NOS RF fender used on my wife's recent restoration.

Sorry none of the pictures are closeups of this area, but you can definitely see the holes.

[bbnotop]

Believe me, I am hesitant to revive and post on this thread, but I am putting back together my '64 Lemans Convert and noticed something odd. I searched the forums about it and this came up. I am just posting to put information out there, not to stir any pot. My car was built at Fremont on 10-22-63. I know the history of this car back to 1984 and no body work was done back to that date. My fenders were recently stripped and no evidence of any body work. I do believe the left front was hit at some point in the past and the left front fender was likely replaced with a used one. That left front fender has the rectangular slot but the right front has just a hole in the same spot as others have noted. I have attached pictures of the hole and the only code that I found on that fender. Just FYI. (Oh and that is just epoxy over bare steel.)

[aceaceca]

I bought a forged steel flywheel from a fellow that dealt in Chevy parts. He was not familiar with Pontiac stuff. Well, he happened to bring the flywheel over to my house. We chatted for some time and he ventured that dealing with Pontiac
lovers had amazed him. His words were that they were fanatics to the max about their cars and their parts. He was spot on as there are numerous posts and fiery exchanges on this forum concerning such mundane concerns as a frigging hole in a fender. God save the queen.

[242177P]

Originally Posted by aceaceca

God save the queen.

Politics AND religion??

[Tom Vaught]

Really do not care what other think, I know what I have and I know where my car was built. Where was your car built Dick B?

Tom V.

[Dick Boneske]

My red ‘64 was built in KC. My Gulfstream Aqua (my wife’s) was built in Pontiac. The other two ‘64’s I had were both made in Pontiac.

All four GTO’s had the rectangular holes in the front fender for the plastic nut to retain the rocker panel.

I believe that ‘64 GTO’s all were built this way—with rectangular holes for plastic nuts. Is it possible that front fenders from a Tempest that had no rocker moldings. There would be no rectangular hole, so the simple way to fit rocker moldings would be to drill a hole for the front screw. It’s very possible this would have been done at the factory if they ran out of GTO/LeMans front fenders.

That’s my story. Not trying to fuel the argument.