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Old 03-28-2020, 03:44 PM
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I cannot comment the PY Dad will lose it ...lol Lets just say my heads would surpass most .. Ok I am done...[/QUOTE]

Flow is one thing but do they perform like they're the best?

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That's good HP for a little 446 Mike. What's the engine combo? Cam specs?
I don't want to muddy up the PO's thread.
4.185 bore x 4.050 stroke, Comp Solid Roller 276/280@.050, .440 lobe. Wenzler Original TR with 2- 750 Carter AFB's.

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I don't want to muddy up the PO's thread.
4.185 bore x 4.050 stroke, Comp Solid Roller 276/280@.050, .440 lobe. Wenzler Original TR with 2- 750 Carter AFB's.
Nice combo.... Muddy it up!

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I don't want to muddy up the PO's thread.
4.185 bore x 4.050 stroke, Comp Solid Roller 276/280@.050, .440 lobe. Wenzler Original TR with 2- 750 Carter AFB's.
Go ahead muddy away, lol. What is your compression?

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Old 03-28-2020, 03:59 PM
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Go ahead muddy away, lol. What is your compression?
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E-heads with a 68CC chamber. They were originally 335 CFM heads that I hand ported. Chris Howe that does all the heads for John Kaase worked them over last year. The mid lift numbers picked up a good bit. Changed from a 2.15 to a 2.19 intake and used a tuliped 1.76 Cobra Jet exhaust valve. Ended up using a 50deg seat. Flow at .700 is 345 cfm intake and 252 Exhaust, His bench is usually conservative.

NMCA changed the rules and allow Holleys now. Going to try a pair of 750VS Holleys and see if it has more over the Carter AFB's.

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First....complete the engine, second dyno the engine, third run it down the track... Then you still won't have anything useful to contribute to this thread... It's about actual experience with E-heads.

BTW.... We can tell you have an opinion of Wilcox, because you passed on buying a custom spacer he made for your second hand intake manifold and bought the CFM instead... Obviously you must not have faith in his ability to make a spacer.
Yes I am a fan of Wilcox. It takes someone as good as him fix your mess. The spacer is on its way. Maybe I can drop it by your place for a day or two. You know, copy it, learn from it. Team Xerox at work. I bought the Dale Cubic spacer because I am a fan of Dale cubic and it was a good bargain.
Here is the deal. The Victor I bought came from you. At the very least you sold a messed up intake to a unsuspecting member. At the very worst you were the guy to messed it up. either- or. No way around that one. At least own it Paul.
It was bad enough that it was easier and cheaper to just make it a 4500 intake. It was originally a 4150 folks.

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Old 03-28-2020, 07:17 PM
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Yes I am a fan of Wilcox. It takes someone as good as him fix your mess. The spacer is on its way. Maybe I can drop it by your place for a day or two. You know, copy it, learn from it. Team Xerox at work. I bought the Dale Cubic spacer because I am a fan of Dale cubic and it was a good bargain.
Here is the deal. The Victor I bought came from you. At the very least you sold a messed up intake to a unsuspecting member. At the very worst you were the guy to messed it up. either- or. No way around that one. At least own it Paul.
It was bad enough that it was easier and cheaper to just make it a 4500 intake. It was originally a 4150 folks.
So just what did the intake manifold flow before and after the modifications?

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Here is the deal. The Victor I bought came from you. At the very least you sold a messed up intake to a unsuspecting member. At the very worst you were the guy to messed it up. either- or. No way around that one. At least own it Paul.
It was bad enough that it was easier and cheaper to just make it a 4500 intake. It was originally a 4150 folks.
Good story please post up more info with pictures.

It couldn't have been messed up too bad it came off a car that was a lot faster than 10.9's..... Just saying.

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Meaux did a set and victor/1050 way long ago on a 474 made 780s Hp. On his stingy Dyno. Probably top dog or near at the time. Never flowed them, probably a 350 cfm head. Car backed it up too 8.60s, @ 2750

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Yes I am a fan of Wilcox. It takes someone as good as him fix your mess. The spacer is on its way. Maybe I can drop it by your place for a day or two. You know, copy it, learn from it. Team Xerox at work. I bought the Dale Cubic spacer because I am a fan of Dale cubic and it was a good bargain.
Here is the deal. The Victor I bought came from you. At the very least you sold a messed up intake to a unsuspecting member. At the very worst you were the guy to messed it up. either- or. No way around that one. At least own it Paul.
It was bad enough that it was easier and cheaper to just make it a 4500 intake. It was originally a 4150 folks.

Lol! You have already admitted to making stuff up so why would anyone believe you vs Paul's proven record on n/a and boosted combo?

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Meaux did a set and victor/1050 way long ago on a 474 made 780s Hp. On his stingy Dyno. Probably top dog or near at the time. Never flowed them, probably a 350 cfm head. Car backed it up too 8.60s, @ 2750
I believe it is just the result of Larry's attention to detail. I don't remember how often Larry said he hangs the weights on the dyno to check its calibration. But I am sure it is far more often than most others do.

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Lol! You have already admitted to making stuff up so why would anyone believe you vs Paul's proven record on n/a and boosted combo?
Hi Scott, glad you chimed in. I was waiting for it.

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If they had ever run George would be practicing social distancing and be at less 6 foot behind Jeff's "E" heads. lol

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I one took a set of the new E heads with the LS chamber and got them without the pushrod holes drilled and sent them to Wilcox you would end up with a killer set of E heads that go at least 374cfm. Just give them to him and let him do what he does.
There are a few sets out there but have not heard anything from they track or dyno yet. This virus thing will slow it all down.
The person I bought that Victor from sent it too him with a check, not sure how much. But when he got the intake back there was a 150$ check with it. You know the guy is honest.
The question wasn't about a set without pushrods drilled. It was about a standard port set of Eheads without offset pushrods.

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